Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Saix027]

These are all good points except, uhh

Not up to date with it anymore but WoW dropped a lot it seems, they really not care anymore, but well it is todays Blizzard so, just the best example and well known game i could come up with. My main point stands that they can change lore as they want, the headgear i can look away at laast, i mean they literally only have there feet as normal Viera with there starting gear while everything else is also not customized, same way Elezen, Lalafell, Miqo'te even lost there little ear bumps in helmets so.

[Allegor]

Actually, WoW is doing a major overhaul to their character creator (and leveling experience) for their next expansion, which is why the idea of an update has been leaking this way, because if WoW can, XIV surely can.

[Theodric]

Actually, WoW is doing a major overhaul to their character creator (and leveling experience) for their next expansion, which is why the idea of an update has been leaking this way, because if WoW can, XIV surely can.

PSO2 is undergoing a complete overhaul and there's at least three upcoming MMO's on the horizon that may or may not do fairly well for themselves. Blue Protocol, Pantheon and New World. I'm hoping at least one of the existing or upcoming MMO's does very well for itself since FFXIV would benefit from some healthy competition.

Businesses have a habit of suddenly being able to overcome 'limitations' when they have a major rival.

[SpiralMask]

PSO2 is undergoing a complete overhaul and there's at least three upcoming MMO's on the horizon that may or may not do fairly well for themselves. Blue Protocol, Pantheon and New World. I'm hoping at least one of the existing or upcoming MMO's does very well for itself since FFXIV would benefit from some healthy competition.

Businesses have a habit of suddenly being able to overcome 'limitations' when they have a major rival.

genshin impact's weird gacha-mmo design may end up siphoning players off/be competing as well, since it does look fun (and at least as of current info has a fairly forgiving/non-predatory f2p model)

[WhiteArchmage]

PSO2 is undergoing a complete overhaul and there's at least three upcoming MMO's on the horizon that may or may not do fairly well for themselves. Blue Protocol, Pantheon and New World. I'm hoping at least one of the existing or upcoming MMO's does very well for itself since FFXIV would benefit from some healthy competition.

Businesses have a habit of suddenly being able to overcome 'limitations' when they have a major rival.

Tangentially related but that's pretty much why I'm glad EA is finally getting some competition in the "Life Simulation" genre. Sims 4 has been wildly disliked by the fanbase for its... abundance of game packs sold as "expansions", "game packs" and "stuff packs", essentially removing features that were available in previous games' base game and selling them separately.

To the point, healthy competition can only mean good things for XIV, best case scenario as an incentive for the suits to give the dev team a bigger budget.

[Alleo]

Yay I'm so glad it's back! Let's keep it appropriate and positive. If you don't want male viera, or don't have anything positive or constructive to say, please don't post. This thread is to show SUPPORT. To celebrate the return of the thread:

Hellooooo Mister sexy. That is one Viera I could get behind (but lets be real I would just be happy to have them at all.)

Also yes for it being back. (And I missed its return) If they truly had just deleted such a huge thread completely I would have been quite salty..I mean if its too much you can still just lock it up.

PSO2 is undergoing a complete overhaul and there's at least three upcoming MMO's on the horizon that may or may not do fairly well for themselves. Blue Protocol, Pantheon and New World. I'm hoping at least one of the existing or upcoming MMO's does very well for itself since FFXIV would benefit from some healthy competition.

Businesses have a habit of suddenly being able to overcome 'limitations' when they have a major rival.

Yeah or when the PR is too negative. I remember quite well how they told us that they cant give us more housing wards because reasons..then Shirogane savage happened and people were mad (and articles were written..) and oh what a surprise...SE was suddenly able to increase the amount of wards in every single zone..

[Amnmaat]

The PSO2 New Genesis devs like 2 things that we really like, expansive character creator and open world.
What held me back from trying the original PSO2 was the outdated graphics; PSO2 New Genesis is about to fix that in a big way, it's definitely going to cause some rumbles very close to FFXIV.

[SturmChurro]

PSO2 is undergoing a complete overhaul and there's at least three upcoming MMO's on the horizon that may or may not do fairly well for themselves. Blue Protocol, Pantheon and New World. I'm hoping at least one of the existing or upcoming MMO's does very well for itself since FFXIV would benefit from some healthy competition.

Businesses have a habit of suddenly being able to overcome 'limitations' when they have a major rival.

Maybe, but they would probably have to see hard numbers showing that these rivals are actually hitting their bottom line. I think some of these games are different enough, that they aren't necessarily direct competitors. Also, I don't think that a game like PSO2 or WoW getting some overhauls, necessarily means they would overhaul FFXIV either. We could just see them invest into a new MMO in a best case scenario. They could also just give up, put the game into maintenance mode, and bleed the remaining playerbase dry.

[CrispyUnicycle]

i agree

square add bangaa please

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

That is actually the point that pisses me off here the most about this subject, this "lore" is only canon due from the game they are YET, everything else we goten so far, races, content, everything literally based on every other game was fitted to fit in the lore of FFXIV, this is NOT FFIIX, they can change the lore as they want, yet due there own screwup they use this as excuse, stop kidding yourself with this. For god sake, we got a Nier Automata Raid, they can fit anything in basically, so why not male Viera?

Even makes less sense in the first shard, would any race keep hold on there believes like this if the world literally got doomed and consumed? Why we not see males in the forest there? How do they stay alive as race? Same with Hrotghar, the miners wife was the only one and sadly died so they not have to show her because no model exists. Convenient, right? I call it lazy.

Hrothgar were the literal emergency plan realizing people will be pissed and now we got two problems at once and it only grows, look at helmets here, no one even expects old helmets getting a design for them but what about new ones? You can't introduce a race like this and leave it that way, same with hairs and all, this is outdated a lot and basically old mans choices in deciding what is good for the current generations like politics.

This even reminds me of my first MMO ever, Regnum Online, you had a literal race not able to wear shoes due it had hoofs. Imagine WoW would do such with Tauren, Dranei, etc.

And yes i am aware Yoshi and his team are alone in this, Square is simply a horrible company, wanting to see money without wanting to invest so it can grow for it. Square as company needs ot go to leave Yoshi more free hand and get more moeny from there income they generate.

FYI...The Viera are from Ivalice. Yes XII (12) is set in Ivalice, but its not the only game in this setting. We also have Tactics, so the Viera Lore has existed for quite a while, and still 'currently' we have yet to see an In-Canon Male Viera Visually illustrated. Its not really an 'excuse' when its been a consistent thing through the series, and yes they can change it if they so wanted to, but IF they didn't and the Viera remain Gender-Locked, its at least consistent to their lore. And it just means they decided to keep that consistent for the brand.
Again, Im not saying they won't put in Male Viera, thats not my call, and Im not part of the dev team so I have no backing or a source of proof.

They explained why their is no Female Hrothgar model yet. They didnt have time. Call it lazy if you want, if just doesn't exist yet. If they even plan to make them.

False, Hrothgar was not some Emergency Plan, no idea where you got this idea. They wanted to make a beast race, and Im not gonna sit here and repeat common knowledge why they are; at least currently, Male Only. Nobody will disagree that it sucks they have such limited options at the moment though.

If the Tauren and Dranei didnt have visible footwear, it would at least make sense. Hooves can't wear shoes XD
And note, I dont know what they do for that, I dont play WoW. Dont have a PC that can actually run games, plus XIV is a cheaper Subscription last I looked.