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Thread: $35, really SE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    I didn't know you need another 4 players mount when you already got a free Flying Car
    Beside the vanity, i cant see any other reason why you need this mount
    I see your entire right side is glamoured and dyed. Why? You already had gear that would cover your body if you didn't want your character naked.
    Why did you even waste time in the character creator editing your character? You already picked viera. No real reason to waste all that time clicking around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I didn't bother getting the 2.0 beast tribe mounts until the moogle events because I never would have used them.


    I pretty much only use the Dwarven trashcan mount from the special fate. Love that thing.


    I'm of the opinion that more mounts is better, but I wouldn't feel bad if we stopped getting as many. I have 108 of the darn things now...
    I only use my PVP mounts but in the same way if they stopped putting so many mounts it would bother me not because I use those mounts, because someone might want to use them.

    The more variety the better and in this case, we do not have "variety" in mounts of 2 or 4 people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe View Post
    Oh no, I'm so upset with what you think of me! Jk I don't care. But you go ahead and think you're holier than thou and that you're gonna change the future of mogstation. Gg man you're really invested in fighting something that isn't going anywhere.
    Hoh boy talk about putting words in my mouth, someone’s a bit cranky! I thought the entire point of the forum was to, you know, give feedback and discussion and therefore help provide the devs with crucial player feedback to help shape some future aspects of the game for the better. I gave my feedback on how ludicrous and out of touch the pricing of this Mount is given the current circumstances many of us are in, what have you contributed? Not much, so on that I’m done addressing you as you’ve yet to even make one point relevant to the thread and just want to argue. Go outside and take a deep breath, it’ll be okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Honestly these cash shop items could be used so much better...just take the big mounts..use them inbetween patches to keep people subbed by giving them out if you sub a certain amount of time in that period (thus even if people dont play they have payed you the money). This will in turn also mean that those that do continue to pay you money (which keeps the game alive..) get something out of it..(taking away the veteran rewards and never truly giving us something back in return is just awful)

    And instead of the other and only such reward that we got like that they could put it into the mog station afterwards for everyone to buy if they did not want or could sub at that time..there win win..those who play the game will get their reward and those who did not at the time still can pay the money.
    I would support that, I mean I think most people would of course but I mean extra in the sense that I generally think SE should avoid using content too inspired from within the game for their mog shop. Clearly Sleipnir being the worst offender but even our carriage is obviously the intro scene simplified so it doesn't kill people's frames. Said it a few times but just want to be clear so I'm not accused, I'm not frothing mad, but it is a bit like 'aww, that seems like it could have logically and interestingly be made available in the game!'. (Hence why I encourage them to look at their other games, where of course an event would be neat but if they made Chocolina outfit on the mogshop I'd make zero complaints lol).

    I still think their veteran system could use a tune up, and I know others have said that in this thread too, a reward like that occasionally would be cool. So going back to what I meant when I said support, I mean that I'd support, just like I support seasonals, in the sense that they're for and from within the game but then later made available on the shop. Carriage made free first and then in the shop, oh okay. Carriage straight to the shop? Aww.. that felt like it should have been in the game.

    For the veteran reward I kind of still want to see a whole mognet system added where you can bribe moogles with kupo nut conditioner, lowering or entirely discounting items (based on how much you trade), I feel the imagery and features would be really nice. Being able to experience the shop a bit more 'immersively' and hands on (testing things out in the set pieces), being able to touch the shop with an in game currency, moogles are cute lol, more content (postmaster quests, etc). Of course the rate of conditioner can be well calculated so it's neither useless nor makes the store useless.

    I do not know people well enough to be confident to SE that people would no longer try to buy things and just 'wait it off' till they get enough from their sub, but I want to say it would only help the image of the shop and potentially either balance out or increase sales since people would visit more often. Like it might take a whole year worth of conditioner, year and a half maybe, to buy just one mount flat out, but what you could do is take that and apply it to discount an item regularly. So you might get like 30% off if you used all your conditioner for 3-6 months. $35 too expensive? Get your veteran moogle rewards and subsidize it. And if you're a whale then you ran out of conditioner the second you earned it and have bought everything on the store, most of it full price, anyways. Simultaneously no longer do they need to offer some items in one system and one in another (all the current veteran rewards are moved over to the mogshop), perhaps they can offer special veteran prices for very specific items- like they might sell the ribbon for 5$ but it'd only take 1 kupo nut conditioner to purchase out right (the ratio of value being non-standard because it's specially designed to be a reward).

    If they want to keep the achievement point purchasing system they can put some consumables in there and that's that, like buying yourself some fancy dyes- in this way they never need to worry about player spending all their points on something silly and then being kind of out of luck when they add an expensive achievement point mount or whatever.

    Wouldn't suggest it's easy or ' no worries 'since we're talking about potentially a lot of money if the system some how made people complacent and more 'patient', but I don't think it would, or at least hope it wouldn't, and would just better their image and increase purchases for those who warmed up and simplify and butter the process for those who would normally have never done so. Plus I think the in game market part of it flowing through the mognet concept, and adding content to the mognet (postmasters), would be cute. Smuggle myself a whale out while the big moogle boss isn't looking after ever so lightly caressing a staff moogle's whiskers and firmly rubbing the finest kupo conditioner into their supple ruffles.. .
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    Good thing the proper feedback to this is being given by a superior number of people voting with their wallets. You know, instead of coming to the forums to wallet shame and call people bootlickers and whales and claiming that's "feedback to the devs"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe View Post
    I dunno. I just wanted to take part.
    All good. It just gives me flashbacks to when someone tried to discredit a comment of mine simply because I was wearing the frog-head costume at the time. My fantastic fashion-sense shouldn't be a factor in most conversations (but maybe it will win me some adoring fans?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    I see your entire right side is glamoured and dyed. Why? You already had gear that would cover your body if you didn't want your character naked.
    Why did you even waste time in the character creator editing your character? You already picked viera. No real reason to waste all that time clicking around.
    What an awful response...
    Did I use any cash shops dye or any of my character's gear use any glamour item from the cash shops?
    Nah I don't thinks so
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    What an awful response...
    Did I use any cash shops dye or any of my character's gear use any glamour item from the cash shops?
    Nah I don't thinks so
    No but like, why tho? Cash shop or not what's the point? You already had gear on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Good thing the proper feedback to this is being given by a superior number of people voting with their wallets. You know, instead of coming to the forums to wallet shame and call people bootlickers and whales and claiming that's "feedback to the devs"
    Another PSA by John, if you can’t afford to buy something, don’t even DARE speak or criticise on it. It’s not “proper feedback” if you comment on the OFFICIAL FORUMS. If you’re poor, can’t afford it currently or just don’t think the price is appropriate then you cannot comment. I made my points before about the current financial crisis making this Mount price look horrific, the comment of bootlicking etc. Was just an aside that’s clearly for quite well! The delusion on display here is staggering. Also stop going on about “wallet-shame”, you’re almost in the ranks of that hilariously bad article on Forbes talking about “Anti-Rich Prejudice”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nayout View Post
    Whether he is a troll or not does not mean that his comment is quite accurate in response to other comments. Many complaints from that comment but not from others, I suppose it will be the BIAS.



    Under that, it could be argued that no more 1-player mounts are needed because we already have enough in the game.
    Basically, your vanity got you for good but you just don't want to pay for it.
    You want it so much but cant afford it.
    Throw a fit and expect SE to turn it as free item?
    Yeah, this type of thread pops up every time there is a vanity item on mogstation but did it ever works?
    No it didn't because there are more logical people understand this is vanity item
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