$35, really SE?

[Nayout]

Basically, your vanity got you for good but you just don't want to pay for it.
You want it so much but cant afford it.
Throw a fit and expect SE to turn it as free item?
Yeah, this type of thread pops up every time there is a vanity item on mogstation but did it ever works?
No it didn't because there are more logical people understand this is vanity item

I have money to buy the entire Moggstation right now and in the same way that I do not pay for Plus on PlaystationNetwork even though I have games that I would like online, I do not pay for anything from these stores that could "be" in the game.

By the way, thanks for validating my argument, SE can perfectly erase all the mounts of the next patches and expansions to make them pay and here people will defend them with the excuse that "we have enough"
And finally, where do I look to want to change the system when I know that people are going to pay for this? This is a legitimate complaint like many others, if you don't like to read them you can go elsewhere but come to defend these things with bad excuses. I know perfectly well that this is not going to change but that is not why I am going to defend this, in the same way I know that many gachas have shitty rates and I know that they are not going to change for whales but not for that I am going to defend them as company.

[NanaWiloh]

Logic, ignorance, Salt and Hypocrisy all on one thread. JOY!!!

[MariaArvana]

Another PSA by John, if you can’t afford to buy something, don’t even DARE speak or criticise on it. It’s not “proper feedback” if you comment on the OFFICIAL FORUMS. If you’re poor, can’t afford it currently or just don’t think the price is appropriate then you cannot comment. I made my points before about the current financial crisis making this Mount price look horrific, the comment of bootlicking etc. Was just an aside that’s clearly for quite well! The delusion on display here is staggering. Also stop going on about “wallet-shame”, you’re almost in the ranks of that hilariously bad article on Forbes talking about “Anti-Rich Prejudice”.

Sure, you can give criticism on the official forum.

But going around calling people bootlickers, whales (exact terms you used in your first post), idiots, and being rude/rudely sarcastic is 99.9% likely to have anything you could have possibly said ignored than ever taken seriously by anyone who could theoretically pass it to the devs, as it gives off the appearance of childish whining than constructive criticism.

[Cled-cat]

Sure, you can give criticism on the official forum.

But going around calling people bootlickers, whales (exact terms you used in your first post), idiots, and being rude is 99.9% likely to have anything you could have possibly said ignored than ever taken seriously by anyone who could theoretically pass it to the devs, as it gives off the appearance of childish whining than constructive criticism.

The game industry leaders themselves call us “Whales”, yet these types bat for them and even embrace it. Also, I never called anyone in particular those things in the beginning, and even though I was making a sarcastic off hand comment it worked in making some very sensitive people on here foam and try to attack me instead of actually arguing against my points. I’m not here to convince said “bootlickers”, nothing persuades them, I’m here to voice my feedback, even if to some it’s not “real” as I didn’t buy the fake pixel mount in a subscription video game. Nothing pleases you guys, that’s why there’s little point wearing the kiddy gloves and just saying it how it is.

[Gula]

Anything that’s considered too much of a spicy take against SE or makes people’s brains think too hard is considered bait on these forums, so sure why not buddy.

I'm not your buddy, guy.

You are well aware of how far people will go to get what they want the way they want it on these forums so you can drop the passive aggressive pot shot.

[MariaArvana]

Also, I never called anyone in particular those things in the beginning, and even though I was making a sarcastic off hand comment it worked in making some very sensitive people on here foam and try to attack me instead of actually arguing against my points. I’m not here to convince said “bootlickers”, nothing persuades them, I’m here to voice my feedback, even if to some it’s not “real” as I didn’t buy the fake pixel mount in a subscription video game. Nothing pleases you guys, that’s why there’s little point wearing the kiddy gloves and just saying it how it is.

Now I can’t wait to see the whales who have more money than sense and the bootlickers brigade hiss and spit at us poor plebeians for daring to criticise and mock how ridiculously bad taste the price and timing of this Mount being added to the store is.

Sure, okay. You sent insults in your first post, however you may see it, which is not constructive.

So long as you understand your attitude has disqualified your voice from ever being anything than you shouting into the void uselessly expending energy, scream as loud as you like while the people who can voice pleasant, constructive feedback can speak for you.

[SturmChurro]

All good. It just gives me flashbacks to when someone tried to discredit a comment of mine simply because I was wearing the frog-head costume at the time. My fantastic fashion-sense shouldn't be a factor in most conversations (but maybe it will win me some adoring fans?).

Oh God yes! People here constantly try to belittle you, or discredit your arguments just because of your avatar. Happens to me ALL the time. Especially whenever I fantasia into a catgirl. As if it has much, if any, of a bearing to the discussion at hand.

[Arillyn]

Who wore the Salt Mine best?

FFXIV Housing or FFXIV OnlineStore

It depends on the day.

[ForteNightshade]

The game industry leaders themselves call us “Whales”, yet these types bat for them and even embrace it. Also, I never called anyone in particular those things in the beginning, and even though I was making a sarcastic off hand comment it worked in making some very sensitive people on here foam and try to attack me instead of actually arguing against my points. I’m not here to convince said “bootlickers”, nothing persuades them, I’m here to voice my feedback, even if to some it’s not “real” as I didn’t buy the fake pixel mount in a subscription video game. Nothing pleases you guys, that’s why there’s little point wearing the kiddy gloves and just saying it how it is.

My reply was as followed:

He isn't inherently wrong though. You aren't just criticising SE but mocking everyone else who does not share your opinion. Say this carriage mount is the only mogstation purchase someone makes all year; their splurge if you will. 36/12 is $3, or the price of two chocolate bars a month. For a good chunk of people that price isn't something they'll bat an eyelash over. Why is it any business of yours how they spend their money? People "waste" money on all sorts of luxury things, be it going out to fancy restaurants, clothes (which have an insane mark up, by the way) and so forth.

All that aside, while it isn't "free" in the technical sense. Our subscription covers the four month updates we receive which is a rarity for MMOs. WoW updates once a year; BDO will wind up costing you more if you want to indulge in any of its activities despite being "free to play". Just because there's a global pandemic doesn't mean SE has any obligation to give us a mount. Would it be nice? Sure. But them opting not to do so doesn't suddenly make them the devil either.

But I'm just a boot-licker, right? Because I choose to spend my money on things I want. FYI, I haven't purchased this mount nor do I intend to. I just don't care if others do.

Notice how it specifically targets your argument? You chose to completely ignore it and continue a pointless back and forth with JohnSpawnVFX and other users. You aren't looking to have a discussion or simply provide feedback. You're attacking every point of criticism you dislike and backpedaling whenever someone catches it.

[Kiurai]

Honestly the funniest thread in a while, never thought I'd see a thread with the same arguments repeated 15 times every 2 pages after the Male Viera one but OF never ceases to amuse lol