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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brigandier View Post
    The issues involving Slower Exp has been a popular topic amongst scholars for many years. There are many factors which influenced the development of Slower Exp. While much has been written on its influence on contemporary living, it is important to remember that ‘what goes up must come down.’ Inevitably Slower Exp is often misunderstood by those most reliant on technology, obviously. Though I would rather be in bed I will now examine the primary causes of Slower Exp.

    Social Factors

    Society begins and ends with Slower Exp. When Sir Bernard Chivilary said 'hounds will feast on society' [1] he saw clearly into the human heart. A society without Slower Exp is like a society without knowledge, in that it bravely illustrates what we are most afraid of, what we all know deep down in our hearts.

    Our post-literate society, more than ever before, relies upon Slower Exp. Just as a dog will return to its own sick, society will return to Slower Exp, again and again.

    Economic Factors

    In spite of the best efforts of The World Bank the market value of gold, ultimately decided by politicians, will always be heavily influenced by Slower Exp due to its consistently high profile in the portfolio of investors. What it all comes down to is money. Capitalists love Slower Exp.

    Political Factors

    Much of the writings of historians display the conquests of the most powerful nations over less powerful ones. Comparing international relations since the end of the century can be like observing Slower Exp and former Wolves striker Steve Bull.

    Consider this, spoken at the tender age of 14 by style icon Bartholomew Bootlegger 'People in glass houses shouldn't throw parties.' [2] I argue that his insight into Slower Exp provided the inspiration for these great words. If Slower Exp be the food of politics, play on.
    The question which we must each ask ourselves is, will we allow Slower Exp to win our vote?

    Conclusion

    In my opinion Slower Exp deserves all of the attention it gets. It collaborates successfully, provides financial security and it brings the best out in people.

    I'll leave you with this quote from Wyclef Zeta-Jones 'I demand Slower Exp, nothing more nothing less.' [3]
    I love this post. Thank you sir.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rau View Post
    Forgive me Hall Monitor. I should have said "time it takes to reach max level."

    I will remember to make all my posts semantically accurate.
    And again, I pointed out why your post was not only semantically incorrect, but logically incorrect, too. The TNL is irrelevant, because the additional crap required just to get that exp going far superseded whatever the actual TNL was. The long and short of it is, if you want leveling to take longer, it stands to reason that leveling needs to be harder to do -- either by making it harder to acquire exp in a timely manner, or make it harder to kill monsters in a timely manner.

    Or you could nerf exp gains from mobs below your current level (and vastly above your target level) to oblivion to ensure that you can't farm EPs and/or have a level 50 farm mobs while you're level 14 to PL you to 40 in a day. Sorta thing.
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    I'm allergic to effort.

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by auritribe View Post
    I love this post. Thank you sir.
    http://www.essaygenerator.com/
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    Account deactivated. Holding out for Guild Wars 2.

  4. #24
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    let the game begin with all rank 50
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  5. #25
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    Buddhsie Asura
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    We have here the same old argument that begins with someone saying that the exp gain is way too fast, and people reply with exaggerated scenarios in which it takes a year to hit max level. It seems someone has to step in here and call for some kind of middle ground agreement.

    Yes, exp now is too fast.
    Yes, exp when the game was first released was probably too slow.
    Somewhere in the middle lies the magical value that keeps everyone happy!

    I'm sure that with the release of V2.0 and the many smaller zones we'll see something like FFXI had, where a single zone would be a good place to exp for ~5 lvls, then you would need to move to another area. The way the game is setup now, there isn't a lot of exploring and variety to be had, so I can see how many people would say grinding is boring. With lots of little zones you will surely see variety in enemy types, enemy distribution and scenery, along with the need to move on from an area periodically as you level. If this doesn't keep you happy while grinding at a steady pace, obviously broken up by other content such as leves, quests, crafting, dungeons etc. (don't tell me you want to grind non stop all day and then complain it's slow and boring because that's thinking like a mentally disabled person) then there's something seriously wrong here!

    All in all I agree with slowing the pace of lvling down, but not too far.. How about a nice round 2 months of say 3 hours a day 5 days a week grinding in exp parties to hit 50 on a job? (~120 hours). Sounds like reasonable middle ground to me.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by RemVye View Post
    SE listen to Cladio - we need to adjust this adjusted system for the 4th time.
    Seriously.

    No offense Cloudio, but you don't need to make a thread EVERY SINGLE TIME you think of something, especially when it's been discussed 10 billion times already.

    Levelling was much slower and people complained about it, now it's easier. Do you seriously think they're going to change it back? And then what, make it easier again 3 months later when everyone's complaining it takes too long to level?

    Quote Originally Posted by Isaveron View Post
    There is a topic with over 1,500 replies you could have post this in.
    Oh no no no. He couldn't possibly stand being an average forum user and posting in the related topic like us common folk do. Surely he is entitled to his own thread? Us measly mortals cannot comprehend.

    Come on man, get a grip. Like I said this has been discussed to infinity and beyond and nothing that will be said here hasn't already been said elsewhere.

    Jesus, next up you'll open a thread on how we have too many leves now or how we walk too fast while in active mode.
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    Last edited by Colino; 02-05-2012 at 10:14 PM.

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    Seriously.

    No offense Cloudio, but you don't need to make a thread EVERY SINGLE TIME you think of something, especially when it's been discussed 10 billion times already.

    Levelling was much slower and people complained about it, now it's easier. Do you seriously think they're going to change it back? And then what, make it easier again 3 months later when everyone's complaining it takes too long to level?

    Come on man, get a grip. Like I said this has been discussed to infinity and beyond and nothing that will be said here hasn't already been said elsewhere.

    Jesus, next up you'll open a thread on how we have too many leves now or how we walk too fast while in active mode.
    Settle down mate. The guy went to a lot of trouble writing this, and you just come along and give him shit? He raised a valid point in a new and interesting way, so you have no right to act like a jackass just because you don't agree with him.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddhsie View Post
    Settle down mate. The guy went to a lot of trouble writing this, and you just come along and give him shit? He raised a valid point in a new and interesting way, so you have no right to act like a jackass just because you don't agree with him.
    Maybe it's because I'm a "jackass", but I really don't see anything NEW AND ORIGINAL about this.

    He could've went through the "trouble" of posting it in one of the billion topics on the subject, many of us tend to do just that in order to keep all ideas about a certain topic in one or two threads on that specific topic.

    But yes I'm the jackass because I don't spam the forums with redundant threads. Good riddance.

    I also replied to him with my opinion on the subject, but I'm certain you skimmed over that because it's not important in the slightest. Maybe I should open my own topic about it.

    EDIT: Just do I don't sound like a complete madman, here are other topics on the subject of how quick it is to level (just the ones I found searching for 30 seconds):

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...olutely-BROKEN
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...7-End-game-why
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...thing-to-Lv-99.
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    Last edited by Colino; 02-05-2012 at 10:28 PM.

  9. #29
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    Sounds like someone needs a hug. There are many ways I could point out how wrong you are, but for the sake of not derailing the thread any further I will leave it as is.
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  10. #30
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antanias View Post
    This game is also being built with a level 99 cap in mind, so we might end up seeing 10,000,000 exp to get from 98-99 when we reach that point
    Too low
    Ragnarok has 100,000,000 exp from 98 to 99 ^^
    By the way, in Ragnarok you need 102,468 exp from 49 to 50. Just a little bit more than in FF XIV. 1-50 is a walk, the real grind begin with 70+ I say
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    Last edited by Felis; 02-05-2012 at 11:13 PM.

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