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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    While it's easy to see one side as overreacting or rude while you think the other side is just because it's the side you're on, it's clear people on both sides of this argument are just resorting to name-calling and personal attacks rather than actual discussion. It went off the rails a while ago and no one from either camp has really made an effort to be civil about it.
    Except with these threads, one side has never been (nor do they show any desire to ever be) civil about it. They are always quick to vilify which is why my view of them is rather dim to say the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Except with these threads, one side has never been (nor do they show any desire to ever be) civil about it. They are always quick to vilify which is why my view of them is rather dim to say the least.
    You mean the people literally naming and shaming people in their posts? Because yes, this is true.
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    Players: This is against the rules according to FFXIV Terms of Service!
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    Players: Actually GMs don't know the ToS so their opinion doesn't matter. Even if they did (insert thing they're mad about) is morally wrong!

    Or the secret alternative ending: "If you have to ask a GM for a clarification about a rule it means that you're breaking it!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Except with these threads, one side has never been (nor do they show any desire to ever be) civil about it. They are always quick to vilify which is why my view of them is rather dim to say the least.
    I've been exceedingly civil in all of my posts. I've stuck thoroughly to facts. The people with multiple houses are not breaking the rules. That's my whole point, and my only point.

    Your moral rule set applies only to you, that's how morals work. Don't want more than one house? Great, don't buy more than one. But don't say that "well, you might not be breaking the rules, but in my head you are!" You say 'one side is quick to vilify' and yet you also say 'people who don't abide by my personal morals are selfish, and being selfish is wrong' So I'm not sure if you're admitting that your entire argument is just an attempt to vilify multiple house owners, or what you are trying to say here.
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    Last edited by Catstab; 08-24-2020 at 10:48 AM. Reason: forgot the word 'buy'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    I've been exceedingly civil in all of my posts. I've stuck thoroughly to facts. The people with multiple houses are not breaking the rules. That's my whole point, and my only point.

    Your moral rule set applies only to you, that's how morals work. Don't want more than one house? Great, don't buy more than one. But don't say that "well, you might not be breaking the rules, but in my head you are!" You say 'one side is quick to vilify' and yet you also say 'people who don't abide by my personal morals are selfish, and being selfish is wrong' So I'm not sure if you're admitting that your entire argument is just an attempt to vilify multiple house owners, or what you are trying to say here.
    You're not who I was referring to.
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