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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvastreak View Post
    You're all complaining to SE that there's not enough housing while supporting people hoarding housing and plots "because they can". You are all hypocrites and this forum is a goddamn cesspit. Awha, as someone who literally struggled to get a housing plot for an fc house, do not hoard houses for the love of the Twelve. You might see it as a hobby but it really does affect other people and prevent them from accessing a lot of fc stuff at the very least, as well as closing off opportunities for people to use the gardening system and chocobo stabling.
    Yes... if you wanna play the sims or smt, then do that and dont play an mmo with limited shared housing...

    And rubbing it into peoples faces by using such tags is just nasty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvastreak View Post
    You're all complaining to SE that there's not enough housing while supporting people hoarding housing and plots "because they can". You are all hypocrites and this forum is a goddamn cesspit. Awha, as someone who literally struggled to get a housing plot for an fc house, do not hoard houses for the love of the Twelve. You might see it as a hobby but it really does affect other people and prevent them from accessing a lot of fc stuff at the very least, as well as closing off opportunities for people to use the gardening system and chocobo stabling.
    We're supporting players who have houses.

    Again, the problem is not the 3,780 characters who have personal houses. The problem is that 5,040 houses exist for an average of 24,000 people on NA servers, leaving roughly 20,220 homeless per server. Even if we deleted every personal house in the game and started over, there would be 20,220 homeless after the houses were purchased once again. In short, we need 4 or 5 times the wards we currently have. SE knows this, and they are working to launch more. They might even implement instanced housing with Ishgard - we won't know till they announce it.

    But taking away the 3,780 currently owned houses won't solve the problem. In fact it will deprive many players of time spent, it will deprive many players of enjoyment - those players will in turn cancel their subs, depriving SE of subscription money, a lot of it. This lost money will result in a reduction in quality of the game which will hurt everyone who plays it. You are asking SE to hurt us players, and hurt themselves. They have already decided not to do this. This is why grandfathered housing exists.

    Some players don't decorate their houses. Some players don't enter their houses. Some players use their houses regularly. Every one of these players deserves to keep their houses, unless they decide not to enter their house for 45 consecutive days. That is SE's determination on the matter. There is sound logic behind this decision, and we who support it are not being hypocritical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvastreak View Post
    You're all complaining to SE that there's not enough housing while supporting people hoarding housing and plots "because they can". You are all hypocrites and this forum is a goddamn cesspit. Awha, as someone who literally struggled to get a housing plot for an fc house, do not hoard houses for the love of the Twelve. You might see it as a hobby but it really does affect other people and prevent them from accessing a lot of fc stuff at the very least, as well as closing off opportunities for people to use the gardening system and chocobo stabling.
    Perosnally I think people would be better off if they did not view housing as an entitlement. That aside why should I care about the enjoyment of others in yhe game when you are not offering the same? You are trying to paint those that play differently from you as a villain because they do not mesh with your agenda or vision as to what is fair.

    Why should your view be the standard? No rules were broken? Not upset or anything just curious. Players do not make the rules, nor can the enforce them, and nor should they try to take sction into their own hands because of a personal perceived injustice. Can d I disagree and voice for change but I do think it is fair to try a lay the burden on the players for SE design choices.
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    Last edited by Awha; 08-22-2020 at 04:39 AM.

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    Imagine being so delusional and desperate that you want to paint GMs as wrong for upholding their rules. Y'know, ignoring the fact you broke forum rules yourself, but go off on your soapbox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessAlice View Post
    Imagine being so delusional and desperate that you want to paint GMs as wrong for upholding their rules. Y'know, ignoring the fact you broke forum rules yourself, but go off on your soapbox.
    Still mad that people don't like that you hoard houses, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Still mad that people don't like that you hoard houses, huh?
    Why would I be mad? On the contrary, I find it hilarious knowing it will get them nowhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessAlice View Post
    Why would I be mad? On the contrary, I find it hilarious knowing it will get them nowhere.
    You seem mad though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    You seem mad though.
    Okay. Feel free to think what you like. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Last edited by PrincessAlice; 08-22-2020 at 04:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessAlice View Post
    Okay. Feel free to think what you like.
    At risk of being called delusional? Not a chance.
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    I'm interested to learn what the REAL IDEAL amount of houses to own per person are per the pitchfork mobs on these forums.

    As people continuously cite the website that says "Temporary Changes" for the housing standards, you claim a player can have 2 houses per service account (1 FC, 1 personal) right?

    So does that mean the players with 5+ service accounts now can own 10+ houses comfortably without people whining and demonizing them?

    Are you only upset that this is legally (within the parameters of the TOS with GM notice btw) being done all on one service account?

    This game is easily afforable for some players and it brings them levels of joy in which they can afford upwards of $100 a month for multiple service accounts.

    Entertain me OF. What are the logical loops you'll jump through to demonize this incredibly legal method of owning multiple homes?

    I am legit interested in opinions on this.
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