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  1. #331
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    Beddict's Avatar
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    Titania Chevalier
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    Siren
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BasicBlake View Post
    But on a more serious note about necromancer, have we ever met one that hasn't tried to kill us? Or we have had to kill? It would definitely be a first in the games to add a class that wasn't introduced as anything but friendly so far. Haven't they always been strictly enemy?
    We have not, no. I made a post about why Necromancer is highly unlikely in the "Next Jobs" thread and it can basically be summed up as horribly taboo and would probably put the WoL in conflict with organizations like the Order of Nald'thal and even piss off at least one City State. I also agree with what you said a page back about how the Necromancer we fight in the latest dungeon talks about being tainted. It's a pretty mild understatement to call that WoL "tainted" when she's going around, raising corpses, and turning them into bombs. Necromancer is one of those Jobs that would be incredibly neat to see playable, but just wouldn't mesh with the WoL or the culture of Eorzea.
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  2. #332
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    KaerisKlyne's Avatar
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    Hjarta I'kastala
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 90
    5.3 has pretty much solidified for me we're getting Chemist/Apothecary healer and GEO caster
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  3. #333
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    Cledwyn Llywellyn
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    God I’d LOVE a GEO caster and Chemist healer. My pipe dream is that Geomancer could use Terrain as a sort of variation of Leylines, encouraging positioning as part of their rotation. This game sorely needs a Druid/Nature based Job after WHM left their roots (no pun intended) behind.
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  4. #334
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    Basic Blake
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cled-cat View Post
    God I’d LOVE a GEO caster and Chemist healer. My pipe dream is that Geomancer could use Terrain as a sort of variation of Leylines, encouraging positioning as part of their rotation. This game sorely needs a Druid/Nature based Job after WHM left their roots (no pun intended) behind.
    I could definitely see that being the gimmick since Geomancers in 14 are so heavily based on leylines. Swallows Compass is built where it is because it’s where the leylines of Earth/Wind/Water converge. It’s why you travel through those three elements in there as well. I would expect personal leylines for each element as part of the kit!
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  5. #335
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I would not be surprised if Geomancer was actually a tank/melee dps using Hammers.

    We see Ardbert fighting multiple times... And he has a deep affinity to the Earth element. All of his attacks are based on Earth, not sheer strength/windcut like most Warriors.


    Of course, 2 tanks in a row is unlikely.
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  6. #336
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    Morningstar1337's Avatar
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    Aurora Aura
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    Exodus
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I would not be surprised if Geomancer was actually a tank/melee dps using Hammers.

    We see Ardbert fighting multiple times... And he has a deep affinity to the Earth element. All of his attacks are based on Earth, not sheer strength/windcut like most Warriors.


    Of course, 2 tanks in a row is unlikely.
    Problem is that...
    he is still classified as a WAR though and uses an Ax as appropriate of the job, and also that GEO uses Wind and Water as well.
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  7. #337
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Problem is that...
    Alisaie, During HW, was classified as PLD/Gladiator, at least during her introduction in 3.4, before the RDM reveal.
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  8. #338
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    Basic Blake
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I would not be surprised if Geomancer was actually a tank/melee dps using Hammers.

    We see Ardbert fighting multiple times... And he has a deep affinity to the Earth element. All of his attacks are based on Earth, not sheer strength/windcut like most Warriors.


    Of course, 2 tanks in a row is unlikely.
    Except we have no indication of them being anything of the sort in game. Every Geomancer shown has been in robes with bells. Geomancer is not a axe wielding class to begin with.
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  9. #339
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    Hank Hotspur
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    I think people are reading too much into the chemist idea from the miqo'te girl. I saw her story as addressing the issue that 5.2 ended with where all these people who heard the voice of Hydaelyn call them leaving their previous positions to become adventuring warriors of light. There was the fear that the fragile society of Norvrandt would break down if all the guards, merchants, doctors, workers, and artisans decided to run around dungeons and defeat evildoers instead of contributing to a world they sought to protect.

    However, with her we get a different "warrior of light" who isn't running around whacking people with a sword but instead traveling around and using the knowledge of medicines from the Crystarium to assist the people of the world, adding to the running theme of getting society back on its feet that we saw with the changes in Eulmore and even now the Dwarf quest line.

    I think seeing that as "she's going to run around killing bad guys with tinctures and syringes and heal her adventuring party" seems to be losing the point of it.

    I mean, chemist is still a likely job for a future expansion, but I think this subplot will end up being as much a "hint" to it as was the reveal trailer for Stormblood "hinting" at dancers when people saw the "mysterious new blonde woman" moving around in a red dress.
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    Last edited by Hank_Hotspur; 08-17-2020 at 05:26 AM.

  10. #340
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    Hjarta I'kastala
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hank_Hotspur View Post
    I think people are reading too much into the chemist idea from the miqo'te girl. I saw her story as addressing the issue that 5.2 ended with where all these people who heard the voice of Hydaelyn call them leaving their previous positions to become adventuring warriors of light. There was the fear that the fragile society of Norvrandt would break down if all the guards, merchants, doctors, workers, and artisans decided to run around dungeons and defeat evildoers instead of contributing to a world they sought to protect.

    However, with her we get a different "warrior of light" who isn't running around whacking people with a sword but instead traveling around and using the knowledge of medicines from the Crystarium to assist the people of the world, adding to the running theme of getting society back on its feet that we saw with the changes in Eulmore and even now the Dwarf quest line.

    I think seeing that as "she's going to run around killing bad guys with tinctures and syringes and heal her adventuring party" seems to be losing the point of it.

    I mean, chemist is still a likely job for a future expansion, but I think this subplot will end up being as much a "hint" to it as was the reveal trailer for Stormblood "hinting" at dancers when people saw the "mysterious new blonde woman" moving around in a red dress.
    Even so, you still have Bjalsaljen as a battle medic poised to take a major role in Bozja, and there's a lot of interesting job tease lore in the dialogue options at Gangos.
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