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    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LariaKirin View Post
    The raid is generally pretty bad, full of cheap jebait mechanics.
    And here I was thinking players in this game liked a challenge and wanted content to be less brain dead. Funny how people react when they get what they asked for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    And here I was thinking players in this game liked a challenge and wanted content to be less brain dead. Funny how people react when they get what they asked for.
    You own those elitists, ahhh you really got em lol.
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    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    You own those elitists, ahhh you really got em lol.
    I'm not talking about any one group in particular, people on the forums just generally complain that the game is too easy as it is, yadda yadda, but now that they can't immediately breeze through it, it's no longer desirable.

    You can't deny that's the mindset that inhabits these forums and possibly other places where people speak about the game. I was merely pointing something out. Relax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    I'm not talking about any one group in particular, people on the forums just generally complain that the game is too easy as it is, yadda yadda, but now that they can't immediately breeze through it, it's no longer desirable.

    You can't deny that's the mindset that inhabits these forums and possibly other places where people speak about the game. I was merely pointing something out. Relax.
    Dude, you are just hilarious. If your brush is wide enough, you'll always be right. Keep on rocking man, I'm cheering for you.
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    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    Dude, you are just hilarious. If your brush is wide enough, you'll always be right. Keep on rocking man, I'm cheering for you.
    I think you're replying in the wrong thread or something, what you're saying isn't making any sense.
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    Ironically, Yoshi P said during the Live Letter that the team had to nerf the raid during testing. When Yoko Taro tried the raid, he wanted it even tougher then the previous version. >w>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    I'm not talking about any one group in particular, people on the forums just generally complain that the game is too easy as it is, yadda yadda, but now that they can't immediately breeze through it, it's no longer desirable.

    You can't deny that's the mindset that inhabits these forums and possibly other places where people speak about the game. I was merely pointing something out. Relax.
    Though I'm on the side of "it's too easy" you realize the forum isn't a hivemind right? There are people on both sides of the argument, so it's less "The players can't make up their mind" and more "There's two clashing viewpoints".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stepjam View Post
    Though I'm on the side of "it's too easy" you realize the forum isn't a hivemind right? There are people on both sides of the argument, so it's less "The players can't make up their mind" and more "There's two clashing viewpoints".
    This so much. Literally 2 of the top 4 threads on this forum as i type this are "Increase Difficulty of Dungeons" and "Seat of Sacrifice is far too overtuned". Not started by the same person, obviously.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    And here I was thinking players in this game liked a challenge and wanted content to be less brain dead. Funny how people react when they get what they asked for.
    Cheap jebait mechanics are not a challenge.

    There is no punishment in these fights other than the "gimmick" mechanic. It's why 5 people who understand the mechanic after seeing it once or twice can recover the entire raid and one-shot every boss on day 0.

    And it will be the reason why this raid will be a complete faceroll from week 2 onwards.
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    None of the mechanics are that cheap though. They all have a logic behind them
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