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  1. #21
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    StriderShinryu's Avatar
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    Alexalea Snowsong
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    Yeah, Necro still feels like a real stretch to me. Necromancy is a thing in the world of FF14 but basically every mention of it or reference to it has been talking about how negative and unnatural it is. Heck, pretty much the entire Alchemist storyline is about that. Not saying that SE couldn't reverse course and change that but it feels like it would take a pretty big retcon to all of a sudden make necromancy okay.

    But, let's say that they do, then... a healer? Again, SE can do what ever they want but what in that fight makes you think necro would be a healer? She literally summons the dead to explode on you and has a timed one hit kill effect on one of her attacks.
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    Player Gothicshark's Avatar
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    Marielle Sansoleil
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    What would be cool, and honestly I doubt they would, but what if they added new jobs on top of old classes, the way Scholar and Summoner are.

    Necromancer could be a Thaumaturge healer.
    Theif could be a new Rogue job.
    Bereserk could be a Marauder DPS Job.
    Apothecary could be an Alchemist Healer Job.

    ... well if we turn professions into combat Jobs, Goldsmith into Pro-Wrestler because well Godfery is a god.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    It's my coping mechanism. Instead of facepalming and causing unnecessary damage to my head, I snark. It's just in my blood.

    Feo Ul has shown up as Titania in at least a couple of other situations prior to this though, such as prior to entering Mt Gulg -- and this was a full blown cutscene with dialogue, so unless you were skipping it or otherwise just not paying attention to it...

    The game also made it pretty clear that Titania is not the name of a specific entity but rather a title; pretty sure it explains that to you right after you beat the Titania fight and Feo Ul takes over the title in your stead, in fact.
    They also tend to be referred to as Titania when they're in their full size form. When in normal pixie form, i don't think i've ever seen the game use Titania.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    Necromancer could be a Thaumaturge healer.
    Necromancy makes absolutely no sense as a Healer. Necromancy is animating corpses. What has that got to do with Healing allies?

    We'd be more likely to see a Shaman type healer, calling on the spirits of the departed and/or ancestors to aid the living.

    I'd also like to point out that we've had Necromancy shown through Edda and again through Alaqa in the WHM Job story.
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    Sol Phantasmagoria
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    I also think there was a lot in this patch to tease people, saying that they know what people talk about, which of course means that people will speculate like we are doing right now!
    Apothecary/Chemist is one that comes up all the time as a healer class, and having that show up, with a brand new character in a world we technically have no need to be in any more was an unusual direction, unless she was just a throwaway character, but that seems...wasteful if that was the case.

    As for the bosses, they are all throwbacks from some of the previous Final Fantasy game designs, which was a prelude for the Warrior of Light's appearance.
    Something I like to think about is that how Hildibrand gets summoned from time to time in the Hero's Gauntlet, confirming he is indeed a hero beyond his own self-proclamations!
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    It might be a reach but do you think the 1st boss "Spectral Thief" kinda reminds you of Locke Cole from VI ?
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  6. #26
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    the only new class teased was chemist in the little M'iqote's story at the beginning of patch 5.3. The Necromancer is a reference to Lenna FFV and the thief is a reference to Locke. The Berserker is probably a reference to Bartz as a berserker. I'm not sure on that one but all 3 are just references to jobs in FFV.
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    They were all just a nostalgia trip up to the trial
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Also I've seen it mentioned that they're actually meant to reference past FF games - the Necromancer is actually Lenna from FFV, the Berserker one of the Onion Kids from FFIII and the Thief is Locke from FFVI, but your malmage may vary on that one.

    Either way, SE has never teased new Jobs in dungeons before they're implemented so I don't expect them to start now (to say nothing Yoshi in the past outright stated ROG is already THF under a different name, and Berserker is just WAR). Anything is possible though I suppose, given what a mixed up crazy year this is.
    Where did you pull the bezerker being one of the onion kids from?
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  9. #29
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    People are stretching so far they're basically at the top of the tree.

    The final boss is basically a warrior, necromancer will...again.
    Will never happen, you're using the dead to do your bidding. It will never be acceptable in the world of FFXIV, people need to stop using different games lore to try to make it work in FF.
    (Not to mention it'll basically be a pet job, which I heard anyway. Yoshi will never do again.)

    This is FFXIV and it has always been a no no and about every person that has used the dead was evil in this game.
    What does the WoL look like using the dead to fight for him/her?

    This game is pretty strict on lore and how they want the WoL to appear.
    Btw, don't get me wrong. I personally wouldn't mind this job as its not like you couldn't play one on FF before. But you could also play a thief and look what happened to that?
    Don't get your hopes up people. Its just a boss in a dgn.
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