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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valic View Post
    No fem hrothgar then?
    Are you asking me? Because if so, I would be fine with that. If it meant a greater character customization system for all existing characters, then yes, no female Hrothgar either.
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  2. #22
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    I ain't gonna let this be an out of sight out of mind thing. The problem ain't gone just cause you can't listen to complaints anymore. SE needs to finish what they started. We ditched these bad race/gender stereotypes with the rest of the 1.0 mistakes. A large part of why I joined in 2.0 was because they admited omitting male miqo'te, and female roegadyn and highlanders was a mistake.
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    That's what I'm saying though, a lot of you think they'll do a character creator upgrade because they didn't add male Viera. But what happens instead is they do nothing and just sell you MSQ and 2 new jobs.

    I'll be very surprised and in support of no male Viera if we get character creator upgrade, but the chances of that seem low, from my perspective, based on history.

    So I'll just ask for male Viera instead.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    That's what I'm saying though, a lot of you think they'll do a character creator upgrade because they didn't add male Viera. But what happens instead is they do nothing and just sell you MSQ and 2 new jobs.

    I'll be very surprised and in support of no male Viera if we get character creator upgrade, but the chances of that seem low, from my perspective, based on history.

    So I'll just ask for male Viera instead.
    I'm not speaking of what I think they'll do. Because I honestly have no idea what they have planned. Instead, I am simply sharing my opinion of what I'd rather have. I have no interest in anything viera so basically any content in its place is fine by me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe View Post
    I'm not speaking of what I think they'll do. Because I honestly have no idea what they have planned. Instead, I am simply sharing my opinion of what I'd rather have. I have no interest in anything viera so basically any content in its place is fine by me.
    There's never any content "in place" of new races, Stormblood showed this very clearly. But if 6.0 changes that, then that's great.
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    Wait, what happened to the old thread? Did it finally implod on itself.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    There's never any content "in place" of new races, Stormblood showed this very clearly. But if 6.0 changes that, then that's great.
    That's half correct. While there's no direct content planned in a manner of "We could develop content A or Content B." there is the process of planning and building a new race, not to mention having to fit old gear and new gear to new races. I would rather that time and resources it would take to do those things be utilized on something else. Preferably that thing be new character customization options for existing races, or perhaps some type of graphical upgrade. Heck, even replacing some spaghetti code to make future updates to things easier. Basically, I'd rather things we have now be better rounded out than to have something that will likely be unfinished and just piss everyone off anyways.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Wait, what happened to the old thread? Did it finally implod on itself.
    The mods probably got enough complaints finally and zapped it out of existence.
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  9. #29
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    Everything that was needed was said ... its just going to tumble down into the same thing.
    1000 Pages turned into a huge trashfire, making a new threat will simply cause the same problem, just let it rest.

    SE is aware of the request, knowing their current shedule is already tons behind ... its not gonna be on the list.
    There is stuff they can move, and stuff that is kind of fixed.

    Im pretty sure even tho SE is currently behind shedule, they will still push for 6.0 in Summer next year.
    .0 Updates are incredibly important for SE, not only is it an additional sell, it draws in tons of new players.

    So where do you think the Male Viera fits in on this Timeline, it just doesnt make sense to create something that has no monetary value while you are behind your shedule ... even if the players want it, SE is a company. SE's goal is to make money.

    Tl:dr Ask next Summer in 6.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidedge_Ragna View Post
    Everything that was needed was said ... its just going to tumble down into the same thing.
    1000 Pages turned into a huge trashfire, making a new threat will simply cause the same problem, just let it rest.

    SE is aware of the request, knowing their current shedule is already tons behind ... its not gonna be on the list.
    There is stuff they can move, and stuff that is kind of fixed.

    Im pretty sure even tho SE is currently behind shedule, they will still push for 6.0 in Summer next year.
    .0 Updates are incredibly important for SE, not only is it an additional sell, it draws in tons of new players.

    So where do you think the Male Viera fits in on this Timeline, it just doesnt make sense to create something that has no monetary value while you are behind your shedule ... even if the players want it, SE is a company. SE's goal is to make money.

    Tl:dr Ask next Summer in 6.0
    1. They are not behind in terms of having had to cut content. They are only behind in terms of patch schedule.
    2. They said this new schedule would affect the next expansion in terms of schedule (pushed back), not in terms of content.

    With that put into consideration they're not doing more than they were doing in Stormblood in in terms of projects allocation. And we got female Viera/male Hrothgar.
    Male Viera can still happen if they put in the mechanisms necessary for it: Pitching this idea to the company CEOs + marketing department, hiring new people, and optimizing their weekly workflow.
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