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  1. #191
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    Quote Originally Posted by remiff View Post
    they've been promising egi glamours for so long
    About how long are we talking here?
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  2. #192
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    They first promised it for 3.4 I believe.
    3.4 was released in September or October 2016...

    In about two months, this "promise" will have its 4th year anniversary
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    Quote Originally Posted by NokTokPok View Post
    They first promised it for 3.4 I believe.
    3.4 was released in September or October 2016...

    In about two months, this "promise" will have its 4th year anniversary
    That's... like... almost half of the game's lifespan...
    Oh my god...
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  4. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by NokTokPok View Post
    They first promised it for 3.4 I believe.
    3.4 was released in September or October 2016...

    In about two months, this "promise" will have its 4th year anniversary
    We...got the carby glams literally in 3.5 though. I would MUCH rather, even as a SMN main, time and money costs continue to be allocated to things making the overall gameplay experience and quality as excellent as it has been rather than a niche feature for a job that continues to see reworks and changes that make it very clear the time/cost of egi glams could be a waste depending on what happens with SMN in general.
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  5. #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaerisKlyne View Post
    We...got the carby glams literally in 3.5 though. I would MUCH rather, even as a SMN main, time and money costs continue to be allocated to things making the overall gameplay experience and quality as excellent as it has been rather than a niche feature for a job that continues to see reworks and changes that make it very clear the time/cost of egi glams could be a waste depending on what happens with SMN in general.
    different divisions
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  6. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeulGDarian View Post
    different divisions
    We're not gonna sit here and pretend that manpower doesn't get shuffled around for things to keep workflow optimal, though, and doubly so while covid is ongoing, so. Even if they weren't, it's SO clear SMN has been in a state of "what are we *really* doing with this" for a while now. If I was a business, I wouldn't put time into that until I knew for sure, either. And hey, maybe I'm wrong and we get a bunch of glams in the next expac or something, who can say! I just don't think they will, at least definitely not for the duration of this expac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaerisKlyne View Post
    We're not gonna sit here and pretend that manpower doesn't get shuffled around for things to keep workflow optimal, though, and doubly so while covid is ongoing, so. Even if they weren't, it's SO clear SMN has been in a state of "what are we *really* doing with this" for a while now. If I was a business, I wouldn't put time into that until I knew for sure, either. And hey, maybe I'm wrong and we get a bunch of glams in the next expac or something, who can say! I just don't think they will, at least definitely not for the duration of this expac.
    can you say that with 100% certainty? Its not like they have told us how they work besides having a strict schedule were they work both for the patches and for the future expansion.

    As for the state of summoner , Current smn has some very questionable decisions, mainly how for one they didnt fix the problems, for 2 they worsened them by removing the aetherflow ,which 3 led up to even more issues mainly having the kit work against each other instead of working together.
    With that out of the way they seem to have thrown all of their smn resources in making the egis better, something that is a major stress point for the job because , and here is where community input is essential, people want different things from the job. What summoners biggest problem is that people especially fans of the series let their own nostalgia get the better of them. Ive ranted about this before but unless they get some actual info and not this incoherent mess of loose terms and bad fanfics it will never ever get each own gameplay standardized.
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  8. #198
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeulGDarian View Post
    can you say that with 100% certainty? Its not like they have told us how they work besides having a strict schedule were they work both for the patches and for the future expansion.

    As for the state of summoner , Current smn has some very questionable decisions, mainly how for one they didnt fix the problems, for 2 they worsened them by removing the aetherflow ,which 3 led up to even more issues mainly having the kit work against each other instead of working together.
    With that out of the way they seem to have thrown all of their smn resources in making the egis better, something that is a major stress point for the job because , and here is where community input is essential, people want different things from the job. What summoners biggest problem is that people especially fans of the series let their own nostalgia get the better of them. Ive ranted about this before but unless they get some actual info and not this incoherent mess of loose terms and bad fanfics it will never ever get each own gameplay standardized.
    All this does is prove my point that without a clear direction, egi glam resources would be wasted, so I'm going to respectfully bow out of this thread now. Thanks!
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  9. #199
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaerisKlyne View Post
    We...got the carby glams literally in 3.5 though. I would MUCH rather, even as a SMN main, time and money costs continue to be allocated to things making the overall gameplay experience and quality as excellent as it has been rather than a niche feature for a job that continues to see reworks and changes that make it very clear the time/cost of egi glams could be a waste depending on what happens with SMN in general.
    I am with you on this one. I would also rather see them improve the job.
    To be honest, I hoped that the devs would delete the egis with Shadowbringers and focus on more demi summons.
    Never liked those ugly chicken nuggets.

    But this isn't about that, it's about that the dev team promised to give us egi glamours and after over 3 years... nothing. And no, I don't count Carbuncles, those were already in the game. They just changed the colour for the third one.
    I would rather finaly hear from them: "Yeah, sorry, not gonna happen. We changed our mind", instead of "Please keep looking forward to it."
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    the problem is that to remove egi, you have to completely rework the summoner except the transe system.
    and if the summoner doesn't have a permanent Demi,
    and more primal signature spell ''
    it wouldn't really be a summoner .
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