Were common people aware Bahamut was a primal?

[TheMightyMollusk]

The physical form isn't really important. The Warring Triad aren't any bigger than a regular primal (aside from Sephirot's giant phase), but they're each on par with Bahamut.

[HeulGDarian]

The physical form isn't really important. The Warring Triad aren't any bigger than a regular primal (aside from Sephirot's giant phase), but they're each on par with Bahamut.

they most definitely arent on par with bahamut.

[Espritduo]

Calamity Bahamut was so insanely strong because he was being fueled by a moon-sized aether power plant combined with the desperate pleas for salvation from thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of imprisoned dragons, for thousands of years. You can't just whip up that kind primal juice on the spur of the moment, so no single primal will likely ever have the sheer immense size and destructive power we saw Bahamut unleash when he broke free of Dalamud.

If someone were to try and summon him again, it would be with far reduced summoning resources and the resultant primal would be far weaker, and on par with the primals we have already faced.

The Warring Triad we fought were stated to be far weaker representations of the actual Warring Triad as they were originally summoned by their races back during the war with the Allagans, where each one was in fact a massive force of nature capable of leveling entire nations, due to being summoned by their entire tribe as a last resort. The ones we fought were simply smaller scale versions being summoned by a small number of captured representatives of their race.

Should also mention that the only reason we are able to whip up our own personal primals to fight in the Eden quests is because we are using the massive power of Eden as well as our own unique abilities as the Warrior of Light (and who knows what else) to summon them.

[Ultimatecalibur]

Its likely been answered before but I've just been wondering why it hasn't be re-summoned like Ifrit, Garuda, Titan? Faith doesn't seem to be the only way considering the eden quest line we can summon them. Bahamut left a big impression and showed up in a large area even attacking a city. Am I missing something?

No one currently wants to resummon Bahamut. Ifrit, Garuda, Titan, Leviathan, Ravana and Bismark have all been resummoned because the tribes worshiping them did so in a desire to get back at their enemies. Bahamut's tribe is currently either in suspended animation or does not want to resummon him.

Shinryu was technically based on Bahamut.

[HeulGDarian]

No one currently wants to resummon Bahamut. Ifrit, Garuda, Titan, Leviathan, Ravana and Bismark have all been resummoned because the tribes worshiping them did so in a desire to get back at their enemies. Bahamut's tribe is currently either in suspended animation or does not want to resummon him.

Shinryu was technically based on Bahamut.

shinryu is a different legend entirely, Mr sloppeey guy said so.

[Ultimatecalibur]

shinryu is a different legend entirely, Mr sloppeey guy said so.

Nope. Ilberd wanted to recreate and exceed the devastation caused by Bahamut at Carteneau and used the sacrifice of himself and his people to summoned a bigger badder dragon primal inspired by Bahamut. The new dragon primal was named Shinryu by the Doman refuges after a legendary beast (which was likely Midgardsormr) described in Far Eastern Legend.

[HeulGDarian]

Nope. Ilberd wanted to recreate and exceed the devastation caused by Bahamut at Carteneau and used the sacrifice of himself and his people to summoned a bigger badder dragon primal inspired by Bahamut. The new dragon primal was named Shinryu by the Doman refuges after a legendary beast (which was likely Midgardsormr) described in Far Eastern Legend.

He says in his dialog
I will call upon a deity more terrible than the very black wyrm of calamity itself, not that he wants to summon a dragon thats like bahamut, and he is indeed based after a far eastern legend, so where exactly did you see its based off bahamut?

[TheMightyMollusk]

Quoting from Encyclopedia Eorzea II:

Shinryu
This primal was summoned by Ilberd Feare, former captain of the Crystal Braves. Contrary to the many entities called forth as embodiments of faith, Shinryu manifested as an incarnation of the all consuming hatred Ilberd held for the Garlean Empire. As a divine presence without benefit of a divine mythology, the primal's existence was an anomaly which questioned the established fundamentals of ritual summoning.
One mystery is why, without an origin myth to guide its formation, Shinryu took the shape of a dragon. The Scions surmised that its appearance was related to the rite's source of aether--the eyes of the dread wyrm Nidhogg. Their report also included notes regarding Ilberd's presence at Bahamut's catastrophic awakening, detailing how his memories of the elder primal may have lent form to his desire for an entity of unprecedented might. But whilst neither theory provides a certain answer, the astonishing fact remains: a single-minded wish for the Empire's annihilation imbued a primal with a strength which rivaled--if not surpassed--that of the prayers of deep-rooted faith.

TL;DR, nobody entirely knows why Shinryu looks like a dragon. Other than that dragons are awesome.

[Cilia]

@ OP: Nobody was aware of Bahamut being sealed within Dalamud until the Calamity itself (Nael's deus Darnus phase in 1.x strongly suggested it though), and common folk are not all that knowledgeable on world events or the deep truths of the world. So... veeeeeeeeeery unlikely.

As for Shinryu, its form is implied to be the result of interplay between his power source (Nidhogg's eyes) and Ilberd's wish for a primal more powerful than Bahamut with which to lay waste to the Empire. More strangely is that Shinryu's form echoes an evil, crystalline Midgardsormr at his full power; Middy even refers to it as a "vile simulacrum [of myself]" during the Omega storyline, and he was chased to Hydaelyn by Omega (Final Fantasy meta-mythos has a bit about Omega trying and failing to destroy Shinryu, which fits more with Midgardsormr here).

So basically Shinryu is an evil, shoddy knockoff of Midgardsormr.

[Zohar_Lahar]

Calamity Bahamut was so insanely strong because he was being fueled by a moon-sized aether power plant combined with the desperate pleas for salvation from thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of imprisoned dragons, for thousands of years. You can't just whip up that kind primal juice on the spur of the moment, so no single primal will likely ever have the sheer immense size and destructive power we saw Bahamut unleash when he broke free of Dalamud.

Bahamut was also augmented by the massive cascade of astrally-charged aether from the Seventh shard rejoining to the Source.