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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Depends how they go about it. The Anima relic essentially had us going through old content which
    ... which is something they explicitly said they won't be doing for this relic due to player feedback.
    That's why we only had relic quests heavy on reusing old stuff in ARR and HS. And since they've moved away from that approach they would have needed to take notable time and manpower from other content to make relic stuff happen earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    ... which is something they explicitly said they won't be doing for this relic due to player feedback.
    That's why we only had relic quests heavy on reusing old stuff in ARR and HS. And since they've moved away from that approach they would have needed to take notable time and manpower from other content to make relic stuff happen earlier.
    Again, lets not act like the SE devs are going to re-invent the wheel here.

    Eureka was nothing more than re-used assets (save Paz/Lou/Penny) in FATES.

    I doubt Bozja will be different. I hope I'm wrong. I hope Bozja is amazingly fun, but with SE's track record I doubt it will be anything majorly exciting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    ... which is something they explicitly said they won't be doing for this relic due to player feedback.
    That's why we only had relic quests heavy on reusing old stuff in ARR and HS. And since they've moved away from that approach they would have needed to take notable time and manpower from other content to make relic stuff happen earlier.
    Except they are. While Bozja is available, you'll be able to do separate quests that essentially works like the old relics. Yoshida even came out and admitted his surprise at how much feedback they received asking for the old system back as they disliked Eureka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Except they are. While Bozja is available, you'll be able to do separate quests that essentially works like the old relics. Yoshida even came out and admitted his surprise at how much feedback they received asking for the old system back as they disliked Eureka.
    This. However, I'm miss remembering or he also mentioned that this second option will come on a later date?
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