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  1. #401
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    Baby pulls aren't convenient, they're a giant waste of time.

    Do better.
    I mean it depends on the person, so we cannot say for a fact that they are not convenient for everyone. For some I am sure it is, for others clearly it is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    A few extra minutes are not a giant waste of time.
    Not all of us have an unlimited amount of time to play the game. When I queue into expert I expect to be out within 15 minutes. That isn't happening with baby pulls.

    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    I mean it depends on the person, so we cannot say for a fact that they are not convenient for everyone. For some I am sure it is, for others clearly it is not.
    If they were convenient for the majority of people we would see them happening more frequently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    Not all of us have an unlimited amount of time to play the game. When I queue into expert I expect to be out within 15 minutes. That isn't happening with baby pulls.
    15 minutes is generous. I'm averaging sub 13 on Anamnesis and Grand Cosmos, imagine if we weren't synched down for Cosmos how much quicker that would be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    Not all of us have an unlimited amount of time to play the game. When I queue into expert I expect to be out within 15 minutes. That isn't happening with baby pulls.
    So you have time for 15 minutes, but not, say, 20 minutes? If your time is that tight, then manage it more wisely and do something that will not have you be at the mercy of random strangers. You could be in a group that keep failing mechanics and dying and end up taking you much longer than a single-pulling run would do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iAxX23 View Post
    15 minutes is generous. I'm averaging sub 13 on Anamnesis and Grand Cosmos, imagine if we weren't synched down for Cosmos how much quicker that would be.
    I mostly heal to avoid dead weight healers but then sometimes wind up with pepega dps.

    And frankly I dont mind! If I needed it to be faster than 15 minutes I would either not queue or find someone to come with to ensure a baseline level of competence.

    God, I cant want for Cosmos to be out of expert. It cant come soon enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    So you have time for 15 minutes, but not, say, 20 minutes? If your time is that tight, then manage it more wisely and do something that will not have you be at the mercy of random strangers. You could be in a group that keep failing mechanics and dying and end up taking you much longer than a single-pulling run would do.
    I heal expert. There aren't wipes even when everyone totally dumbs on mechs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    I heal expert. There aren't wipes even when everyone totally dumbs on mechs.
    Ok, you might be right with that, it's not the mechanics that people usually fail (although it happens, like with that dragon boss in Stormblood or first boss in Amaurot). It's unnecessarily pulling large packs where I see wipes the most on expert dungeons.
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  7. #407
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    Not all of us have an unlimited amount of time to play the game. When I queue into expert I expect to be out within 15 minutes. That isn't happening with baby pulls.



    If they were convenient for the majority of people we would see them happening more frequently.
    Just remove the person from the group at that point, though to say that they are not convenient is a statement that honestly depends on the person in question. We cannot say for certain what one person finds convenient and what another does not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    Ok, you might be right with that, it's not the mechanics that people usually fail (although it happens, like with that dragon boss in Stormblood or first boss in Amaurot). It's unnecessarily pulling large packs where I see wipes the most on expert dungeons.
    Theres no such thing as unessarily large pulling when the enemies hit like a gentle breeze, the fact that you see wipes in the first place means a lot, ive not seen a party wipe on trash since shadowbringers dropped. Hell even trusts can heal you through most double pulls and they are completely braindead and still dps while doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    Hell even trusts can heal you through most double pulls and they are completely braindead and still dps while doing it.
    You reminded me of something I used to do with Trusts. I would get Urainger, Thancred, and Y'shtola, double pull and then AFK and let them do all the work while I do something else when I level a DPS job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    A few extra minutes are not a giant waste of time.
    They are, when it happens on every single roulette...
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