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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    You could probably make stance dancing a thing if bosses had mechanics that absolutely required your tank stance to survive but you would have to make tank stances provide roughly the same baseline mitigation and of course SE would need to change encounter design.
    They did once actually, that not stopped people of switchign regardless and blame the healer or others, Orbonne Monestary as example, without tank stance no tank survived the tankbuster on the third boss, but people ignored it because they were not MT, yet people still only looked at damge, the worst in this how SE gived in changing tank accesoires to strength because people cried, it is ironic how people call others whining if things are hard but if they cry for such "elitism" it is ok. Now we have this mess we are in.
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    Vicious Zvahl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saix027 View Post
    They did once actually, that not stopped people of switchign regardless and blame the healer or others, Orbonne Monestary as example, without tank stance no tank survived the tankbuster on the third boss, but people ignored it because they were not MT, yet people still only looked at damge, the worst in this how SE gived in changing tank accesoires to strength because people cried, it is ironic how people call others whining if things are hard but if they cry for such "elitism" it is ok. Now we have this mess we are in.
    Huh? No tank needed their tank stance to live through TG Cid's tank buster. You just needed a strong cooldown and to be topped off, like with every tank buster. Like, if you needed the 20% mitigation from a tank stance, then WAR would be unable to tank it lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saix027 View Post
    They did once actually, that not stopped people of switchign regardless and blame the healer or others, Orbonne Monestary as example, without tank stance no tank survived the tankbuster on the third boss, but people ignored it because they were not MT, yet people still only looked at damge, the worst in this how SE gived in changing tank accesoires to strength because people cried, it is ironic how people call others whining if things are hard but if they cry for such "elitism" it is ok. Now we have this mess we are in.
    1. no you did not need tank stance for that buster, I know because I tanked the thing...
    2. they put strength on tank accessories because duh, tank damage scales with strength and once your HP reaches the threshold where you can easily survive mitigated busters and raidwides vitality has barely any use. In HW you simply used dps accessories (except for that brief time where tanks actually scaled with vit) because you did not need the extra HP but with Stormblood that wasn't an option anymore due to accessories being job specific. That has less to do with elitism and more to do with people not wanting to gimp themselves by wearing gear that's essentially useless, or would you be fine if melee dps suddenly only had intelligence on their accessories?


    Elitism is apparently now used interchangeably with "common sense"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saix027 View Post
    They did once actually, that not stopped people of switchign regardless and blame the healer or others, Orbonne Monestary as example, without tank stance no tank survived the tankbuster on the third boss, but people ignored it because they were not MT, yet people still only looked at damge, the worst in this how SE gived in changing tank accesoires to strength because people cried, it is ironic how people call others whining if things are hard but if they cry for such "elitism" it is ok. Now we have this mess we are in.
    Not only did you never need tank stance. Cid auto targets the three tanks. You literally don't need aggro at all that fight as he will always target a tank so long as they're alive. I know because I tanked him in full Deliverance day one.

    Tank accessories were changed to strength because tanks scale off that stat. They subsequently made them job specific because tanks were still using slaying accessories for Susano and Titania. It was pretty much inevitable outside of initial prog, they'd attempt it in Savage too. Damage has always been king in this game because you only need enough HP to survive the scripted mechanics. Having an extra 10k means nothing if you don't actually need it.
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