Lack of updates on Viera and Hrothgar.

[Awha]

For the most part I do think a decent chunk of the player base did not expect to hear anything regarding them until the next expansion. For SE it is better for them to say no thing at all until they are absolutely ready to reveal anything.

Though I am not holding my breath that we will get any update come 6.0 regarding them. I cannot imagine how far back covid has pushed their time line.

[Enla]

If nothing changes by 6.0 then I'll be annoyed, but frankly with the whole COVID situation I'm not at all surprised that things might have come to a screeching halt. Particularly when they just cancelled All Saints Wake due to COVID complicating their release/dev schedule. The ideal situation would be that the developers are still working on these fixes in their spare time during quarantine but given the Japanese relationship with at home PC set ups and the rigs modelers/the art team at large actually need I wouldn't be surprised if only a handful are able to work from home in that capacity.

For the most part I do think a decent chunk of the player base did not expect to hear anything regarding them until the next expansion. For SE it is better for them to say no thing at all until they are absolutely ready to reveal anything.

Though I am not holding my breath that we will get any update come 6.0 regarding them. I cannot imagine how far back covid has pushed their time line.

Yeah I cannot imagine SE will say /anything/ about this until they either have the assets already finished and ready to be pushed out - or until they've made the internal decision to stop working on it altogether.

[Controller]

And which MMO is that? WoW? The MMO that's been on life support since they tried reeling players back in with classic to hold them there until Shadowlands?

On a side note - For this thread and those wondering about the "Updates". I think you guys forget that Yoshi-P said he didn't want to add new races because of the resources and manpower. This was before ShB came out. But they did anyways. So when you take that into consideration, Hrothgar and Viera will always be at the very back in terms of importance. Actual content comes first. But i'm fairly sure at the next fanfest we will see a surprise video of our male Viera and female Hrothgar. I assume that's why it's been fairly quiet for a while and maybe some other surprises.

Also on another note - I've said this before in other threads. They should scrap Hrothgar. We already have a cat race. I'd prefer Lupin, the wolf race.

I disagree there. The wolf race is even more limited then Hroths.

[ElciaDeiLinus]

With COVID they're going to have to prioritize- guaranteed they can't do all they want to do, maybe they're operating at half, maybe 3/4, maybe 1/4 nobody can really know but I think we can all agree they won't be able to be as efficient in what they're doing, which in turn is going to mean a mix of pushing things back and cutting things at least for now.

The Haloween event sounds like one such cut, and I'd expect aesthetics not tied directly to necessary content to be another. That might not make it suck any less for those looking forward to more genders for the new races, but I think it's at least a pretty straight forward reason and there's little reason to believe that's not considered a low priority item on the list.

[Vahlnir]

With COVID they're going to have to prioritize- guaranteed they can't do all they want to do, maybe they're operating at half, maybe 3/4, maybe 1/4 nobody can really know but I think we can all agree they won't be able to be as efficient in what they're doing, which in turn is going to mean a mix of pushing things back and cutting things at least for now.

The Haloween event sounds like one such cut, and I'd expect aesthetics not tied directly to necessary content to be another. That might not make it suck any less for those looking forward to more genders for the new races, but I think it's at least a pretty straight forward reason and there's little reason to believe that's not considered a low priority item on the list.

I do believe that current events have put a lot of things they wanted to do on hold. I would be willing to bet that they had planned to add a hairstyle or 2 at the very least to the 2 new races but just never got there. Now they they are behind, they have bigger things to worry about. It sucks, but I get it.

[Beardo04]

Most likely we'll see a big rework of both races with both genders for 6.0 . That's my guess.

[Alleo]

With COVID they're going to have to prioritize- guaranteed they can't do all they want to do, maybe they're operating at half, maybe 3/4, maybe 1/4 nobody can really know but I think we can all agree they won't be able to be as efficient in what they're doing, which in turn is going to mean a mix of pushing things back and cutting things at least for now.

Covid only started to affect stuff around february or march this year. The expansion had been out for much longer than that. I dont think its too much to expect them to at least release one or two new hairstyles for the new races before 6.0 because if something like a hairstyle cant even happen in between expansion than its even worse than I thought..at the start of the game we got countless of new hairstyles per patch. Now with more income, more players, more cash shop items we somehow get less and less of them..and they seemingly dont even manage one new style for the new races..

[MsMisato]

. Now with more income, more players, more cash shop items we somehow get less and less of them..and they seemingly dont even manage one new style for the new races..

Sure FFXIV generates income but it is not as simple as that and its not exclusive to FFXIV. SE will take what it needs from what FFXIV makes and reallocate that money to other projects. It's just way business work sadly and it really does suck. I really wish Viera and Hrothgar had more hair options at this point in time.

[Melichoir]

I dont think COVID is going to affect the dev cycle that much, atleast not in the capacity that people are saying. They have already addressed cutting back or down on current seasonal content due to it, but it's also likely that the anticipated launch date for hte next xpac will have also got pushed back a little bit to compensate for some of the time lost. We're not talking about them losing a year of dev time, just a few months of slow down. And wasnt most of the issue with it more about testing out current raid and dungeon content, not necessarily development issues itself.

[EtherRose]

I disagree there. The wolf race is even more limited then Hroths.

Well yea, duh. Because Hroth was actually worked on to be made a playable race. Lupin wasn't. Either way they could have made 2 clans for the Lupin - Wolf/Fox to choose from.