Gath and his concern for lack of LS competition.

[Eldaena]

Gath won the internet with this topic.

Gath states that people see third person and they cannot take me seriously.

Gath thinks they cannot take the game seriously because they want something to moan about because 2.0 is a ways off and all of their problems should/would/could be fixed by then.

Gath continues to type like this and no matter the circumstance will Gath change how Gath is.

People get mad at Gath and call this thread bad, if you think Gath's thread is bad then go to one of the other threads. They will be happy to accommodate your lack of sense.

Gath loves FFXIV and Gath loves the people he plays with, even the whole server.

If you have nothing constructive to say that could help remedy the issue or even make the topic better then get out and stop acting like the ten year old you claim Gath to be. Gath does not appreciate hypocrites.



Didn't you say earlier in the thread that you weren't selfish? Sounds like it to me...

Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

But I'm saying I don't gain anything on a monetary level by them not implementing this kind of content. That means the thing I'm fighting for actually isn't selfish. Please understand a post before you try to derail it. =p lol

Edit: The point of the quote was that I care about the community, and not how good I can be as a player or as a linkshell. It's not that those things don't matter to me, my linkshell means the world to me, but I'm not willing to step on others to better myself.

[Eron]

Gath and others make good points.

The ability to hold more than a couple pearls contributes to many unloyal players. At the same time it does create community bonds which I'm sure many servers lack if they're similar to my own.

The fact that a clique breaks off of a linkshell to create their own is something that will happen in any MMO and I have seen, as well as been a part of, myself. I know it sucks, badly, and any mechanic preventing such things to happen I fully endorse (and each time those shells died). This creates some serious drama and drama in a small community really fks sh!t up when you want to build a better one

Many truly don't want to be competitive. I play a PvE game so I didn't require being overly competitive. Yeah, it's carebear-ish, but it's PvE! If I wanted to wtfpwn I'd be playing Call of Duty. Saying that, I do agree that competition is healthy and starts fires under peoples asses and having more roaming nms is but one example (claim wars are fking dumb, surely there's a better way).

As much as I agree and disagree with the OP it's good to see that he gives a sh!t and wants something done. Many of his concerns can be addressed through in game mechanics but the majority of them can be solved by the players themselves. Find you a shell and stick to it. If you don't like it, drop it and move on. Don't just change crests and never talk in the old one .. fking go! Work on your personal goal and don't be selfish with your time and work on the shell's goal. Hopefully they are similar for if they are great things will happen.

[Gath]

Gath and others make good points.

The ability to hold more than a couple pearls contributes to many unloyal players. At the same time it does create community bonds which I'm sure many servers lack if they're similar to my own.

The fact that a clique breaks off of a linkshell to create their own is something that will happen in any MMO and I have seen, as well as been a part of, myself. I know it sucks, badly, and any mechanic preventing such things to happen I fully endorse (and each time those shells died). This creates some serious drama and drama in a small community really fks sh!t up when you want to build a better one

Many truly don't want to be competitive. I play a PvE game so I didn't require being overly competitive. Yeah, it's carebear-ish, but it's PvE! If I wanted to wtfpwn I'd be playing Call of Duty. Saying that, I do agree that competition is healthy and starts fires under peoples asses and having more roaming nms is but one example (claim wars are fking dumb, surely there's a better way).

As much as I agree and disagree with the OP it's good to see that he gives a sh!t and wants something done. Many of his concerns can be addressed through in game mechanics but the majority of them can be solved by the players themselves. Find you a shell and stick to it. If you don't like it, drop it and move on. Don't just change crests and never talk in the old one .. fking go! Work on your personal goal and don't be selfish with your time and work on the shell's goal. Hopefully they are similar for if they are great things will happen.

What people don't understand is that Gath only used HNMs as an example. The actual OP is about bringing shells back together to have a sense of some sort of connection, almost like a family. Gath only enjoyed HNMs because Gath did them with people Gath enjoyed playing with. When there is more at stake people tend to stick with a "one linkshell only" policy, it worked in XI. You cannot completely erase the backstabbing but you can help ease out of it.

People were so amazed at how awesome Gath is that they did not see what the actual topic was about. Gath did not name this "HNMS ONRY!" Gath named this "Gath and his concern for lack of LS competition" I know competition brings people tighter together.

Gath agrees with balance, FFXI had balance.

Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

[Biggs]

remeber great gath that this game caters to smaller LS (8 man alliances) than the good ole 12 man alliance (or even the dynamis level people)

Yep, it sure does cater to smaller ls's. Lets all stand back for a moment and admire how well that model has done for the game to date, shall we?

How does one LS monopolizing anything HNM or ... anything in this game prove to be any better than one person monopolizing wins in PvP? Isn't your thought and what you have mentioned about LS v LS nothing more then you ENTIRE LS stroking THEIR collective epeens? O.o

I think Gath is right in the sense that those events brought people together in large groups better than anything that has yet to be introduced in XIV. Whether your competing for drops or not, there isn't anything in this game right now that encourages people to form together and stay together the way there is in other mmo's.

As much as I dislike him talking in 3rd person, you guys need to GROW UP about your attitudes towards others. Gosh, imagine if everyone was the exact same.. Gath you continue being yourself, as much as it bugs me it keeps this world interesting^.^

Yeah, many people on this forum forget the number one rule about humanity besides it being a team sport, and that is "to each his own". Gaths writing always reminds me of the Jimmy episode of seinfeld, but thats mostly because I am an old man and remember such things.

Totally with you though and your OP Gath. The lack of LS loyalty in this game is a joke. They should have just made a general chat channel and left ls's out altogether if they weren't going to support ls's with the tools they need in ANY way. I can't help but wonder how many more people SE would have retained this past year when they started charging if they had just fixed the LS support issues when we asked them too back when the game released instead of procrastinating it and writing it off as no big deal.

[Eldaena]

What people don't understand is that Gath only used HNMs as an example. The actual OP is about bringing shells back together to have a sense of some sort of connection, almost like a family. Gath only enjoyed HNMs because Gath did them with people Gath enjoyed playing with. When there is more at stake people tend to stick with a "one linkshell only" policy, it worked in XI. You cannot completely erase the backstabbing but you can help ease out of it.

People were so amazed at how awesome Gath is that they did not see what the actual topic was about. Gath did not name this "HNMS ONRY!" Gath named this "Gath and his concern for lack of LS competition" I know competition brings people tighter together.

Gath agrees with balance, FFXI had balance.

Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

I am pro balance in this game. I am also pro linkshell love. I just don't understand why PvP>PvE<PvP has to be the only idea given. It's been stated with much despair how people didn't like this feature in XI. Isn't there some other kind of content ideas that can be brought to the table? lol

[HereticBliss]

I almost replies to this crapfest til I realized it was only two guys verbally masturbating and looking for attention.

Areeya was by far the most entertaining, thinly veiling his desire to showcase an overinflated vocabulary and air of superiority under the pretense of proving God knows what to the rest of us. Gladly I didn't waste any time past the first wall of text and just made an educated guess that it was more ego-induced word vomit.

Gath was sporting an uncommon (for a reason) posting gimmick which I've no doubt he thinks is the most clever idea ever. It's a laughable attempt considering he doesn't seem to be able to consistently stay in the third person, making a feeble gimmick even more ridiculous.

Eldaena I enjoy your honest posts and your positive attitude, please don't waste any more time trying to have an intelligent conversation with these idiots. Let them play their playground games with people more their maturity level. In the meantime I've got two more jackasses to add to my ignore list.

[Bowen]

Gath speaks like that all the time. He only really breaks character when a person is bringing it up. Again, if you can't see past the way he talks and actually consider what he is saying, maybe you are the one with the growing up to do.

Power to you Gath. Feel free to express yourself however you please and don't give a damn about anyone else who would tell you otherwise.

[Eron]

I am pro balance in this game. I am also pro linkshell love. I just don't understand why PvP>PvE<PvP has to be the only idea given. It's been stated with much despair how people didn't like this feature in XI. Isn't there some other kind of content ideas that can be brought to the table? lol

Biggs is onto something, bring back 15 man parties. Or the choice of 8 man and 16 man.

[Gath]

I almost replies to this crapfest til I realized it was only two guys verbally masturbating and looking for attention.

Areeya was by far the most entertaining, thinly veiling his desire to showcase an overinflated vocabulary and air of superiority under the pretense of proving God knows what to the rest of us. Gladly I didn't waste any time past the first wall of text and just made an educated guess that it was more ego-induced word vomit.

Gath was sporting an uncommon (for a reason) posting gimmick which I've no doubt he thinks is the most clever idea ever. It's a laughable attempt considering he doesn't seem to be able to consistently stay in the third person, making a feeble gimmick even more ridiculous.

Eldaena I enjoy your honest posts and your positive attitude, please don't waste any more time trying to have an intelligent conversation with these idiots. Let them play their playground games with people more their maturity level. In the meantime I've got two more jackasses to add to my ignore list.

You call this a crapfest and that you were considering on not posting.

Gath wonders why you did.

Perhaps Gath's cuteness has been like a magnet for your post.

Perhaps you should rethink on who the real "idiot" is.

Your insulting of people makes you look more like an idiot than the people you claim to be one.

Gath loves you. <3

Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

[Eldaena]

I almost replies to this crapfest til I realized it was only two guys verbally masturbating and looking for attention.

Areeya was by far the most entertaining, thinly veiling his desire to showcase an overinflated vocabulary and air of superiority under the pretense of proving God knows what to the rest of us. Gladly I didn't waste any time past the first wall of text and just made an educated guess that it was more ego-induced word vomit.

Gath was sporting an uncommon (for a reason) posting gimmick which I've no doubt he thinks is the most clever idea ever. It's a laughable attempt considering he doesn't seem to be able to consistently stay in the third person, making a feeble gimmick even more ridiculous.

Eldaena I enjoy your honest posts and your positive attitude, please don't waste any more time trying to have an intelligent conversation with these idiots. Let them play their playground games with people more their maturity level. In the meantime I've got two more jackasses to add to my ignore list.

This is really kind of you to say about me, and perhaps my thoughts are falling on deaf ears. I don't think the two of them are idiots, but I think they may just have their priorities in the wrong places. I want everyone to have fun in this game, even them, but I just don't want people's enjoyment to come from stepping on others. I really want people to have fun in this game, and if they have to get upset or frustrated, I want them to take it out on something with AI and not an actual person behind an avatar. We're all real people behind the avatars (except bots I guess, lol.)