I'm gonna say something unpopular: I don't like to rush.

[Alleluia]

If you're in a 80 dungeon and not pulling everything, then I have to question what you've been doing in dungeons this entire time.

Having fun, probably?

I've mained WAR since launch. Maybe 10-15% of dungeon runs in those 7 years have I been asked to pull wall to wall by the group. And if I've said I was uncomfortable doing so, usually cus I was new to the dungeon or I hadn't run it in a while, they've been fine with it. Run at your own pace and if people truly have a problem with it, they'll let you know. Its perfectly fine to only want to run the dungeons as they were intended, by taking the packs on as you come across them.

[linayar]

I was trying to play catch-up

Yeah, that's a mistake.

Pull as many as you want, and if others want to pull more, let them pull them back to you. And if it's the healer, as long as they're confident they can keep you alive, then don't worry about it and just deal with the enemies around you.

Also, if it's a healer, you might be able to get free transportation via Rescue, and that's always fun. So no need to play catch up as the tank.

[ItMe]

OP I'm with you.
These duties have a lot of great details and can be downright beautiful if you just slow down and soak them in.

[Miminming]

a tank is just another player if all the other 3 player want to rush he should.follow or just leave, tank is not and never the leader of party

[Raltar]

OP I'm with you.
These duties have a lot of great details and can be downright beautiful if you just slow down and soak them in.

Run with trusts. Don't waste other people's time when there is an alternative.

[Valic]

Anyone with the "yOu pUlL iT yOu tAnK iT" mentality is a bad player, bar none, zero exceptions. You aren't special just because you're a tank and your party icon is blue. Get over yourself.

In that same vein... you're not special to pull as a dps and expect to not die because you pull something the tank didn't. It goes both ways.

People don't want to spend 20min + in a boring dungeon . Rush is necessary if you don't want it don't queue as a tank for a dungeon

Not every dungeon is "boring"... Maybe to you? Maybe not to them. Rush is NOT necessary OR required.

Run with trusts. Don't waste other people's time when there is an alternative.

The same can be said to people who want fast runs. Use party finder, use trusts, don't force other people to your standard of enjoyment. Your time is no more valuable than anyone else in duty roulettes.

A tank are nothing without a healer so what are you exactly talking about ? if the healer want to pull more its because its boring to pull a dungeon one by one. Nothing require you to aoe those mobs ? Please i hope you don't play tank. bad

Actually, a good tank can do plenty without a healer. There is no one way around this, If the tank can't absorb a mass pull because their max HP is low, no amount of healing is going to stop several 4k crits coming at you at once and killing you (including if you have mitigation up). At the same time, a good tanky tank won't last long if the healer can't put out enough heals for the duration of the kill and dps take too long to kill the pack.


Is it really so wrong for people to just ask each other to play nice these days and respect one another instead of going "harumph, I'ma do what I WANT cuz screw all of you" ?? The hell is anyone's patience anymore.

Really to just conclude this thread. Duty roulette is literally made of randoms. If you're wanting fast runs, or you want to explore, you have options to setup party finders or do trusts. You are not guaranteed ANYTHING and there is no expectation except that everyone tries to make progress. The world revolves around no one, not you, not I. If you want what you want, consider a better route to getting that, otherwise... those randoms are as valuable as you think you are. This goes both ways whether you want a fast clear or want to enjoy the content, it will never be an expectation in roulette for you to be bound to someone else in how they play. No one is a machine, we're all human, not everyone skips cutscenes, not everyone will play to your exact desire, everyone is mortal and will die at a given time on the planet Earth and we have until then to enjoy what we have how we want to. Which means we have the choices and options to go whatever route we wish to, in order to fulfill what we want, whether it be a 5 minute breeze of a dungeon or helping a first timer understand the weight of a dungeon's impact on the story as the Warrior of Light. G'night folks, thread over.

[Gallus]

Nobody expects you to pull a million mobs on learning content, but level 80 dungeons...? That's another story. I honestly wonder what's not fun about pulling 8 mobs...
You perform your AOE rotations against mobs and then have your single target rotations for each boss.

Sometimes I wonder if people actually have their aoe buttons even binded to their bars, like when I come across a RDM that doesn't know that Verthunder II/Veraero II + Impact exists against 10+ mobs I can't help but feel bad. That's a 2 freaking button AOE rotation you lazy bum.

[Bopsheezi]

It's because it's a 2 button AoE rotation is why pulling 8 mobs is not fun.

I big pull because it's expected. Not because I enjoy it.

[Deceptus]

It's because it's a 2 button AoE rotation is why pulling 8 mobs is not fun.

I big pull because it's expected. Not because I enjoy it.

If your main is a DRK they probably have the MOST to do in AoE situations.

Eh, dungeons are supposed to be the DPSs time to shine. For tanks in dungeons your skill is supposed to be in effectively managing your defensive CD's appropriately while doing as much damage as possible.

[Skivvy]

I think it's fairly safe to say that the average dungeon run will see tanks pulling 2 packs of mobs with no real lollygagging going on. Variances will happen on either side of that, and at least in my own personal experiences, groups will typically just go with the flow without issue.

I will say, it irks me when people pull ahead of a tank. X: This may stem from my own anxiety I have about tanking, but I figure the tank is doing what is comfortable for them, and that's cool with me.

As far as taking the time to look around the dungeon, I feel that if you want something more than just a quick spin around, this should be something you save for after the dungeon is completed. Expecting 3 random people to wait on you while you take in the sights at length is where it starts getting iffy.