"Elitism" vs "Casualism"

[EtherRose]

If someone only has 15 minutes to play and not 20, then they shouldn't be doing dungeons with DF groups. If you're in such a rush that you have to do it really fast, the Party Finder is in the same menu, 24/7. With DF, you get what you get, and you can either leave or deal with it. And you can't actually expect random groups to be 100% efficient 100% of the time. You have to be ready for messy duties when you're grouping with strangers. Sometimes people mess up over and over, and sometimes the tank and/or healer can't be bothered to sprint through the dungeon.

Also, I can't help but notice it's always about tanks/healers that "can't" do big pulls. It's always implied that they're completely unable to. Never do people mention that sometimes they just don't want to. It's not a matter of skill or competency, sometimes they just don't enjoy that.

Iv'e never met anyone who simply didn't "Want" to not pull everything. I assume these people that don't "Want" to because they don't "Enjoy" it are a very few. As for people with time short on their hands, the average run takes 25mins. And like i said, these dungeons are so straight forward and easy iv'e yet to find a party in DF that has trouble.

For a second take on your statement regarding people not "Wanting" to pull everything despite them actually being able to, is kinda spiteful and toxic in itself(Partially). You have the ability to make the run faster/easier so everybody can go about their business but you decide not to because you rather pull every group 1 by 1 because apparently that is more fun than doing big pulls and mowing everything down from what i gathered from your statement?

Now, you can play anyway you want as you desire. However, if i have the ability to make the run smoother/faster and easier for my party so we can go about our business, i'm going to do it because i'm not selfish. And yes DF is random, you do get what you get but people should have some decency.

[Doozer]

You have the ability to make the run faster/easier so everybody can go about their business but you decide not to because you rather pull every group 1 by 1 because apparently that is more fun than doing big pulls and mowing everything down from what i gathered from your statement?

I'm not arguing with someone keen on strawman arguments, sorry. Save it for someone else.

[EtherRose]

I'm not arguing with someone keen on strawman arguments, sorry. Save it for someone else.

It's a question for you to clarify. And i don't remember this being an arguement, i don't see any heat going on. Don't know where your mindset is at.