Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Doozer]

Had a WHM in Copied Factory run straight into the proximity AoE between phases in the Engels fight. Everyone ran to the back like normal and they ran straight to the center and died. It's easy to think they were trolling, but they were also performing really poorly the whole way, including one point where our tank was at less than 10% HP and they and their co-healer weren't casting anything. It's not that they were too busy DPSing, they were doing actually nothing. I don't know how people get that far in the game and then somehow don't know how to play. With each expansion and increase in level cap, it makes less and less sense.

[kelevra13]

Fellow AST. If we're both in the same party, and I've already chosen a sect since you haven't chosen yours, please don't choose the same sect after 5mins into the dungeon. Thanks!

Happened to me thrice today. I did adjust; it just gets annoying eventually XD.

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

No one else in your party defended that both your regens stack?

No. But it was a run-and-pull duty. It wasn't a big deal and they didnt't get nasty about it. Honestly I just figured they were a returner or something.

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

Regens have always stacked. What people are probably confusing when they say "regens don't stack" is that in situations where regens are already overhealing stacked regens just overheal even more. At least with a regen+shield, when a regen is overhealing it's just the regen and not the shield that's overhealing. If overhealing isn't part of the equation then double regens is just fine.



To be even more specific, the only shields that don't stack with each other are Galvanize and Nocturnal Field. All other types of shields, including those from other AST/SCH abilities like Catalyze, Seraphic Veil, Nocturnal Balance and Nocturnal Intersection do stack.

Also, the AST shields are stronger than SCH shields. Which one takes priority just depends on how much HP protection is left over in the currently active shield. E.g. if a SCH shield has 5000 hp of protection left then a 6000 hp AST shield will overwrite it. If the SCH shield had 7000 hp or protection left, however, then the 6000 hp AST shield would not.
Adloquium: 375 potency
Aspected Benefic: 500 potency
Succor: 225 potency
Aspected Helios: 250 potency.

I knew about the shields overwriting each other but I thought the Aspected skills did too, mostly because AST was basically expected to switch Sects based on who the other healer was (in HW) and I didn't question it. I just did what was expected. Glad to know regen/aspected stacking was always A Thing.

[Cincierta]

Well, apparently likening mob aggro to getting all of the candy to new tanks does work, but at the cost of everyone else questioning your sanity.

[Avatre]

Well, apparently likening mob aggro to getting all of the candy to new tanks does work, but at the cost of everyone else questioning your sanity.

Sanity is like normal. It's subjective.


As for a story...I was farming some Sigmascape 4 to finish off my WAR title achievement, and got the same GNB twice in a row. Load in, notice other tank doesn't have tank stance on, so I throw mine on. Gate drops, I pull, do a few attacks....and why is Kefka no longer facing me? Oh...he decided to throw on Royal Guard and provoke...fine lets drop Defiance and just DPS to my hearts content as he gets 6 vuln stacks twice in the fight...both times he was the other tank for me.

Is WAR no longer considered a tank? Practically every single duty I end up in, if I am MT as WAR someone decides to provoke the boss off of me, when I'm not even getting a single vuln debuff, or even remotely close to dying. It baffles my mind how someone can be tanking things PERFECTLY, and yet someone else decides they want to do it, and 9/10 they end up eating half the mechanics that can be avoided.

[Vahlnir]

Is WAR no longer considered a tank? Practically every single duty I end up in, if I am MT as WAR someone decides to provoke the boss off of me, when I'm not even getting a single vuln debuff, or even remotely close to dying. It baffles my mind how someone can be tanking things PERFECTLY, and yet someone else decides they want to do it, and 9/10 they end up eating half the mechanics that can be avoided.

Sadly, "tank wars" are nothing new. They've been happening since this game's conception. It has nothing to do with WAR specifically. I don't really know what causes it, other than maybe people needing to feel more secure in their role. If they aren't actually tanking maybe they feel less important? I don't know. It perplexes me. Personally, I will wait to see what the other tank does upon zoning in. If they don't turn on their respective stance then I will do so and pull the boss. Usually this isn't an issue, but random people will always be random. What annoys me is the tanks who turn it on and then stand there indefnitely. It's like "Look sir/madam/etc, you turned on your stance, are you gonna pull or not?"

[Avatre]

Sadly, "tank wars" are nothing new. They've been happening since this game's conception. It has nothing to do with WAR specifically. I don't really know what causes it, other than maybe people needing to feel more secure in their role. If they aren't actually tanking maybe they feel less important? I don't know. It perplexes me.

I just find it happens more when I'm on WAR than any of the others. And all my tanks are the same ilvl too(483), so it's not a matter of gear.

[KaleShibata]

I just find it happens more when I'm on WAR than any of the others. And all my tanks are the same ilvl too(483), so it's not a matter of gear.

coincidence. i noticed if i start the pulltimer/ ready check it lowers the chance of it occuring but that could also be just me. (for some reason initiating the checks makes the other tank figure you're taking it. i only do it in eden normal because some people might want to be safe to start their early prep for their own habits.) but if the other tank starts with stance i just let em have it. 6 out of 10 times you'll be mting in a few minutes anyways.

[Callinon]

Sadly, "tank wars" are nothing new.

Every damn alliance raid is a three-way pissing contest between the tanks. It's dumb. Pick one. Especially when the other tanks that want to tank but can't quite eke out the threat needed to HOLD the boss are also not standing in front of the boss, so you end up with the boss pivoting in place constantly between two or three people.

It is, by a wide margin, by least favorite aspect of tank leveling.