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  1. #71
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    The stewardess hat from Copied Factory already proves they can make hats that work with those races, but constantly decide not to.
    The stewardess hat works because it sits on top of the hair without having to turn bits of it off.
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  2. #72
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Loud Jungle
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The problem is that it's not just a matter of photoshopping ears into the right position. A few things have to come together and work.

    This is just speculation based on what I've seen, but there are multiple parts that have fixed shapes/positions and have to work together here for the simple illusion of a character "putting on a hat":
    1. The character's head
    2. Hair in two pieces: divided around the "hat brim" line, and the top part switches off when hats are equipped. (Viera may not have actually been programmed to have this if they had no plans to ever allow hats in the first place.)
    3. Ears - from some screenshots I saw when people were having early glitches with ears or hair vanishing in certain circumstances, it look like the ears don't actually join the head but float somewhere above it with the "fluff" of hair filling in the gap between.
    4. The hat itself, which may be closer-fitting than the hair it's covering/replacing.

    The question is, once you put that all together, do the ears actually meet the head or do they possibly hover somewhere over is, exposed by the hat?

    Unlike photoshopping where you can put the ears exactly where they work, they have to sit in a fixed position over the head and the hat has to meet them.

    The few functioning headpieces we have for Viera (to my knowledge without playing one) are loose-fitting hoods that could be easily adjusted to ensure they can line up with the ear bases.

    Does this add up or am I on the wrong idea?
    1. Do you have examples of which headpieces float off on Viera? I'd like to compare it to other races. I'm pretty sure it floats off on other races and their hairstyles as well.
    2. You claim all that yet....


    And before you attack the clipping...






    Seems the other races have hair puffyness and clipping issues as well, the world is about to explode
    If the Viera ears passing through the hat bothers them they can cut out earholes for them.
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    Last edited by Amnmaat; 07-30-2020 at 03:35 AM.

  3. #73
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    I don't understand why people continually complain over something they know is standard. When Viera and Hrothgar were added to the game they made the community very aware of this short coming. Why after an entire year are people still complaining? Give it a rest already. I am appreciative they offer events on a consistent basis that provides new emotes, glamour etc.
    Because they also said they were going to make periodically updates throughout the expansion to address this very issue. So far, they have made none despite it being over a year. Maybe rushing two races into the game when they couldn't get everything working for them wasn't a good idea.
    (9)
    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  4. #74
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    I don't understand why people continually complain over something they know is standard.
    Because it sucks when certain races essentially get less rewards from something.
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  5. #75
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    Eloah's Avatar
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    For those of you complaining about how the hat isn't going to work on your Viera or Hrothgar, can you maybe wait until the event launches and you have actual proof before you start bitching. It's a similar situation to the Valentines day event. Wait until you have a reason to be upset and don't speculate.
    (5)
    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

  6. #76
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    For those of you complaining about how the hat isn't going to work on your Viera or Hrothgar, can you maybe wait until the event launches and you have actual proof before you start bitching. It's a similar situation to the Valentines day event. Wait until you have a reason to be upset and don't speculate.

    You don't pay my sub
    People have been making these predictions and were always right, except in 1 case.
    It's important to call it out in the run up.
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  7. #77
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    Shikaree Sinhunter
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    I am once again asking for newer items to be Vierra and Hrothgar possible.

    Otherwise, mods should not be so hard pressed in this community with Squeenix not being able to do what others are doing without issues, since clearly they have enough time for events and adding new stuff to the cash shop all the time. So is it that the devs are just lazy and hate hrothgar and vierra players? Cause that's pretty much all I see when I look at anything in shb that has headgear (including relic armor).

    Saying they don't have time to develop any hats that are newer in shb (not the older stuff, cause there's so much of that and will agree with that) is such a copout answer. Just like Yoshi-P and his copout answer of Monster Hunter gear (even though we're master crafters 5-6 books in at the time in sb, and now 7-8 master books in) that we can't get gear identical to MHW, when none of it looks remotely close to anything MH related for either of those sets. I shame Capcom and YoshiP for agreeing to that garbage set of armor instead of actual Rathalos armor that's iconic to the game).

    The simple answer is (just like jobs), the devs don't actually play the races newer. So rather than making appropriate changes with people who play the jobs (that can clearly be seen by the amount of forum posts in each job category section), they hand it off to a second-hand team who has no idea about how to fix things properly. The people who DID actually do things (sadly while in their spare time) should be part of the dev team that helps to focus on Vierra and Hrothgar (since they clearly have the drive and passion to make it possible).
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    Last edited by Elkanah; 07-30-2020 at 06:07 AM.

  8. #78
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    Victor Theed
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    Every time I see that emote that song pops in my head that goes, aweema way aweema way, I think it's from Lion King but I can't remember.

    I'm gonna put my money on the guess that the Hawaiian shirt and khakis are gonna be something the crafters have to make like the rebel coat and those boots that go with the rebel coat were.
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  9. #79
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    Shikaree Sinhunter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    For those of you complaining about how the hat isn't going to work on your Viera or Hrothgar, can you maybe wait until the event launches and you have actual proof before you start bitching. It's a similar situation to the Valentines day event. Wait until you have a reason to be upset and don't speculate.
    There's no logical reasons for them to NOT show every race except the newest ones (if it's not gonna work properly or at all). That's pretty much why vierra and hrothgar aren't used in any art for events or when presenting clothing that has to do with hats.
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  10. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorTheed View Post
    Every time I see that emote that song pops in my head that goes, aweema way aweema way, I think it's from Lion King but I can't remember.

    I'm gonna put my money on the guess that the Hawaiian shirt and khakis are gonna be something the crafters have to make like the rebel coat and those boots that go with the rebel coat were.
    hawaiian shirt is probably gonna end up in maps, like most of the other clothing item craftables they have each patch
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