Advertising sexual content in party finder

[Zsolen]

Imo, once again the responsible are the parents of the children who are exposed, i don't understand how those parents can buy this kind of game to their child without checking what this game offers.

It's not rated M. SE does what it can to keep the rating in the teenage years. The parents did their job. As an adult, you should try to avoid these types of encounters with minors. Your responsibility as an adult does not end, because you are playing a computer/ video game.

SE keeps the rating low enough for teens. That means teens should be able to play without their parents being vilified for it or getting tells or seeing pfs, fellowships, and yells for ERP. Just because SE tries to cover their butts (because they know how messed up it is), it does not mean you have a blank check.

[Loki]

Don't tell me a teen can be shocked by this kind of erp PF subject come on, teens spend their life on youtube, facebook, etc it's just ridiculous.

If we are really talking about children, so ya as a parent even if the game is rated under 16/18 it's at your own risk to expose your child to it at the moment of this game is "online" your child will "meet" lots of kind of people so you can't blame the company itself if your child meet the bad person.

Children can play solo games but certainly not online games or don't cry if something bad happen....

[Zsolen]

That's no excuse. Yes, teens know about things, but it does not mean adults should see it as acceptabke to advertise it to teens and even engage in this conduct with them.

[Doozer]

Don't tell me a teen can be shocked by this kind of erp PF subject come on, teens spend their life on youtube, facebook, etc it's just ridiculous.

If we are really talking about children, so ya as a parent even if the game is rated under 16/18 it's at your own risk to expose your child to it at the moment of this game is "online" your child will "meet" lots of kind of people so you can't blame the company itself if your child meet the bad person.

Children can play solo games but certainly not online games or don't cry if something bad happen....

You seem really fixated on blaming SE and not the adults that are 100% okay with having deeply sexual conversations with minors. Why don't you blame them? Do you think pedophiles aren't a problem? I doubt it. So act like it. If I had a child and they "met" someone like that online, I wouldn't blame SE first, I would be after the adult that groomed or preyed on my child. Because generally that's what you do with the perpetrator. If an adult engages in any sexual activity with a minor, whether it's in person or online, they are the perpetrator of a crime. The one doing the harming is the one you should be blaming. So stop trying to say people aren't making sense by blaming SE when you're the one blaming them.

And I sure hope you're not implying that it's the child's fault if they encounter someone like that on the internet. I feel the need to mention Chris Hansen again, and his show 'To Catch a Predator', where they actually arrested adults who had 'cybersex' with minors online. Now of course, in that case it was pretty easy to do so because they were previously led to believe that the person they were chatting with were minors and they did it anyway. But we're not so much talking about criminal charges against these people in-game, but rather trying to limit the amount that any minor may be exposed to without even looking for it (see: advertising it in PF, ERPing in public, etc.), and also hopefully trying to inform adults who ERP to be more responsible about it. Obviously it would be impossible to try to prevent people from doing it at all, but potentially endangering and exposing it to minors is the problem. This shouldn't even be an argument at all. It seems pretty easy to understand. Adults need to take it upon themselves to be more aware of what they're doing and who they're showing it to. Not SE, not the minor's parents. The potential perpetrators.

[LaylaTsarra]

That's no excuse. Yes, teens know about things, but it does not mean adults should see it as acceptabke to advertise it to teens and even engage in this conduct with them.

I agree. Party finder needs to be monitored and unacceptable posts removed. RMT and Sexually Oriented posts do not belong there.

[Theodric]

It's a little baffling that some posters are desperately trying to portray inappropriate sexual content as just being the usual stuff that might be seen in a racy movie. It isn't. Anybody who has played on a role-playing server for any length of time will no doubt be aware that there are a lot of people who engage in creepy stalking and seek to explore their darkest desires online.

I've been playing MMO's since the golden age of WoW and in that time I have seen a lot of weird stuff, plenty of which is inappropriate to talk about here. I've been desensitised to it, though I have sense enough to recognise that it isn't appropriate and shouldn't be tolerated if witnessed.

[Veis_Alveare]

It's amazing to me that this thread can even have detractors.

Like yes, 100% of the "adult content" portion of XIV should be banned from the actual game.

If you want to commission lewds by all means do so, I couldn't care less, but it shouldn't be something showing up in PF.

By that same token ban all the clear sellers, what they're doing is hardly more related to the game than the erpers.

[Coletergeist]

I don't see an issue with the PF "lewdness" because of this things called "mind your own business".
So...to the one that says "what if there's a legit adult behind the screen!?" like....how many kids do you think is playing this game by comparison to adults? Lol.
Most of these "advertisements" in PF also label as such if they are lewd for the most part saying "18+, mature, etc" soooooo, by THAT point, that is entirely 100% their fault....aka the child, for interacting with that group in PF. Not SE, not the player that created said PF group.

[Loki]

You seem really fixated on blaming SE and not the adults that are 100% okay with having deeply sexual conversations with minors. Why don't you blame them? Do you think pedophiles aren't a problem?

Of course it is but what do you think SE can do or any other company lol they will send a psycho test to all of their players? They will ban people and will loose money? They will employ some people H24 for banning this kind of behaviour? Let's be realistic.

That's why i think the best solution is to forbid kids on online games or parents take the risk to expose their children to the "world".

And i'm sure some of those "18+ PF" is created by kids/teens themselves so....

Well gl with your utopic battle.

[VictorTheed]

At the end of the day all I can say is if u play a video game to try and pursue sexual thrills then u got problems sir or maam.

I guess why we're at it I feel like saying this, love cannot be found through empty sex, love takes time and dedication between 2 people who are committed to one another and want to share the rest of thier lives together, if u think tender, random hook ups or going clubbing looking to get laid is gonna fullfill u then u are in for a disappointment.

You'll not find happiness in a woman's panties or some dude's flash talk to get u in bed, trust in God to send u a mate and when u get your mate then u and that person take time to get to know each other and become a unifed married couple.