"Elitism" vs "Casualism"

[RyuSaarva]

Months? People were clearing it on the first day. Even the hardest fight in raid, TGC, was well telegraphed with simple mechanics that just really hurt everyone instead of just the player. The problem was, when some players were literally told exactly what to do, they simply refused to do it because of their own ineptitude. It wasn't hard, people just have a tendency to not listen and play with blinders on.

some people clear pretty much anything on day one but mostly it was just wiping and vote abandons, only now it can be cleared pretty easily after multiple nerfs + casualbringers nerfs.

[Lucy_Pyre]

some people clear pretty much anything on day one but mostly it was just wiping and vote abandons, only now it can be cleared pretty easily after multiple nerfs + casualbringers nerfs.

You don't get to call Thunder God hard and then call ShB 'casualbringers' my man. That's like trying to say that Mist Dragon is/was hard and that's just laughable.

[Doozer]

You don't get to call Thunder God hard and then call ShB 'casualbringers' my man. That's like trying to say that Mist Dragon is/was hard and that's just laughable.

For once I agree with you on something. I knew calling it "casualbringers" after that rubbed me the wrong way. I think this person has a really skewed perception of what makes things difficult.

[RyuSaarva]

You don't get to call Thunder God hard and then call ShB 'casualbringers' my man. That's like trying to say that Mist Dragon is/was hard and that's just laughable.

never said it was hard for me personally, it's just too hard for the majority of players.