"Elitism" vs "Casualism"

[Amnmaat]

Has the game thought players how to use Focus target yet? That alone would flip new player's world upside down.

[Goji1639]

That's interesting, never learned that while getting my PR/Communication degree, nor my time in the business school at my university. In fact, the majority of my professors never shied away from lecturing, criticizing, or grilling us without notice in front of our groups or the class as a whole if we fucked up in an obvious manner. The only time we were taken aside was if we requested some clarification in private, or on personal papers/exams. Never during group content.
But maybe that's because we often worked with actual clients during class/workshop time so they expected something of us.

I don't know anyone who took personal offence from the criticism either. Yeah, we would be embarrassed in the moment but we were emotionally stable enough to take it for what it was, advice to help us grow as professionals and not a personal or rude attack intended to shame us. And you could learn from seeing the mistakes and criticisms of your group members as well. A partner of mine hadn't really considered the aspects of negative space when preparing slides for a prospective client in one of our workshops until the professor criticized another group for overcrowding their presentation. That criticism, aired publicly gave her ample time to fix ours.

I've already explained how a teacher student relationship is different. The fact you're equating a classroom environment to a team project or managerial position makes me question all of this experience and education you claim to have.


Specifically regarding all of your education, I have no idea what to tell you. It's been at least a note in every business course I've taken and every bit of management training I've had. Maybe your communications degree being focused on PR meant there wasn't much education on managing team projects and leadership roles. Either that or you're lying; it's the internet so why not. The idea that you've never come across the concept "criticize in private; praise in public" with any extensive business and communications training is straight up baffling. If that's your claim then we're definitely at an impasse; we clearly don't exist on the same planet.

This is literally similar to speaking to a brick wall.

I explained in clear terms why you're wrong and you just hee-haw your way through the same bull.

No wonder you can't take advice ingame, you're incapable of fathoming that you might be wrong.

Yea, responses like this are just pointless posturing. You may as well have just said "I have no counterpoints and nothing useful to contribute, so I'm leaving."

[Doozer]

You're projecting.

Alrighty, person who never posts on the forums but still inhabits it somehow.

[Zsolen]

I've already explained how a teacher student relationship is different. The fact you're equating a teaching environment to a team project or managerial position makes me question all of this experience and education you claim to have.


Specifically regarding all of your education, I have no idea what to tell you. It's been at least a note in every business course I've taken and every bit of management training I've had. Maybe your communications degree being focused on PR meant there wasn't much education on managing team projects and leadership roles. Either that or you're lying; it's the internet so why not. The idea that you've never come across the concept "criticize in private; praise in public" with any extensive business and communications training is straight up baffling. If that's your claim then we're definitely at an impasse; we clearly don't exist on the same planet.

Whenever someone is teaching and someone is learning, it is at least temporarily a teacher-student relationship. That's the way the world works. It does not have to be formal.

[Veis_Alveare]

I've already explained how a teacher student relationship is different. The fact you're equating a classroom environment to a team project or managerial position makes me question all of this experience and education you claim to have.


Specifically regarding all of your education, I have no idea what to tell you. It's been at least a note in every business course I've taken and every bit of management training I've had. Maybe your communications degree being focused on PR meant there wasn't much education on managing team projects and leadership roles. Either that or you're lying; it's the internet so why not. The idea that you've never come across the concept "criticize in private; praise in public" with any extensive business and communications training is straight up baffling. If that's your claim then we're definitely at an impasse; we clearly don't exist on the same planet.



Yea, responses like this are just pointless posturing. You may as well have just said "I have no counterpoints and nothing useful to contribute, so I'm leaving."

You complete and total void of reading comprehension, I swear I've never seen your equal.

I've given you 3k words explaining the exact points you're asking for and your response was "no that's rude" in spite of all logic.

I'm not going to copy/paste it repeatedly for you. You've been proven so completely and utterly wrong so many times I'm genuinely startled you have the gall to keep showing back up. I'd usually attribute it to unwarranted self-confidence but in this case I'll fall back on the lack of reading comprehension because what else could it be.

[Goji1639]

Whenever someone is teaching and someone is learning, it is at least temporarily a teacher-student relationship. That's the way the world works. It does not have to be formal.

Being a teacher places you in a position of authority focused specifically on educating. As a teacher you're not part of a team; you're a consultant. By approaching you for education your students have directly solicited your advice. We're talking about unsolicited advice.

You complete and total void of reading comprehension, I swear I've never seen your equal.

I've given you 3k words explaining the exact points you're asking for and your response was "no that's rude" in spite of all logic.

I'm not going to copy/paste it repeatedly for you. You've been proven so completely and utterly wrong so many times I'm genuinely startled you have the gall to keep showing back up. I'd usually attribute it to unwarranted self-confidence but in this case I'll fall back on the lack of reading comprehension because what else could it be.

Whether or not it's rude isn't open for discussion, so you could write 300k words of opinion on that and it wouldn't matter. It's rude. If you don't like that then blame society for establishing that social tenet.

People are going to interpret it as rude and it will occasionally start fights for that reason. I'm just informing you; what you do with that information is entirely up to you.

[Lucy_Pyre]

Alrighty, person who never posts on the forums but still inhabits it somehow.

All I'm saying is if your only remark is to try and somehow take a mental gymnastics course to attempt and make my sig a 'no u' at me then I think that about sums up how little of an argument you actually have.

[Doozer]

All I'm saying is if your only remark is to try and somehow take a mental gymnastics course to attempt and make my sig a 'no u' at me then I think that about sums up how little of an argument you actually have.

It's interesting that you mention "no u", because that's literally what "you're projecting" was as a reply to what I said. I had no idea you were so funny.

[Zsolen]

Being a teacher places you in a position of authority focused specifically on educating. As a teacher you're not part of a team; you're a consultant. By approaching you for education your students have directly solicited your advice. We're talking about unsolicited advice.

Teachers in schools are part of a team with students and other faculty, parents, administration, and staff.

Anyone can be a teacher. Just not anyone can be a teacher in the traditional form. When people give advice, they are teaching. Now if the individual rejects the advice or teaching of any sorts, that is on them and there can be potential conquences. In a school, it can be failing grades or not getting into college. In this game, it can mean slowing down the team, not clearing, or getting kicked.

[Veis_Alveare]

pointless nonsense

Another rude thing is woefully unqualified people trying to discuss a game they can barely manage to stumble through but I see plenty of that in this thread so :shrug: