The Devs apparently learned very little from the bad aspects of Eureka.

[Reinha]

1- Eureka is still very active.

When I last checked, Pyros, Pagos and Anemos had 6-8 people in each instance. Not the 24 or 48 needed for these new fights.

2- This is ALSO taking the place of this expac's "deep dungeon" in that you can go there, use an under leveled job, play it with full skills and gain levels from that (but this time with the benefit of not speed running one shotting everything so you can actually properly play with a job at max and see how it is). If it's anything like PotD or HoH it's likely to be the most effective way to level up to a point.

Let's hope so! I love it when devs think further ahead than 2 months and make content which either scales with the number of players doing it or keeps people playing a long time after it's new.

[LaylaTsarra]

When I last checked, Pyros, Pagos and Anemos had 6-8 people in each instance. Not the 24 or 48 needed for these new fights.

Everytime I've gone there have been a bunch with a regular BA group running almost daily. This has been on Crystal DC and a friend and I earned WHM relics not too long ago (this character I might add). We have all the Hydatos Eureka gear for healers and hope to do BA one day we're just been busy. Someone I know on Chaos just earned her BA mount although I haven't personally been visiting the zones so I can't comment on numbers but the discord has to be active if she got it this past week.

[reivaxe]

When I last checked, Pyros, Pagos and Anemos had 6-8 people in each instance. Not the 24 or 48 needed for these new fights.

IDK when you last checked but I legit did that last weekend. Heck, I recently watched Mr. Happy stream himself randomly joining a BA impromptu run and he's not on my DC, maybe you checked at a bad time.

Let's hope so! I love it when devs think further ahead than 2 months and make content which either scales with the number of players doing it or keeps people playing a long time after it's new.

You can count on people doing the most efficient thing to get through the leveling slog. Tis why PoTD and HoH are still going strong even through people ignore the top prizes to repeat the low level stuff for the returns on time invested. If they make it so that you can reasonable try out a job at 80 on mobs that don't die 1/3 through your rotation and make it faster for leveling than dngs then it's gonna be populated forever regardless of loot or relic farms.

Tis why I think they made it lvl 71 to enter. Logically you would need to be 80 to even unlock it ... right? But next Expac you will be able to story skip Shb so you can have a character who is low level but all story done and if they do that that player can use this to get from 71 to 80.

[Hysterior]

When I last checked, Pyros, Pagos and Anemos had 6-8 people in each instance. Not the 24 or 48 needed for these new fights.

Maybe server differences because on my server, Eureka at peak time is full.
I never played Eureka before and started about a month ago, now at Pyros and it is well-populated.

[Tlamila]

I think you never had an interest in Eureka to begin with. Don't blame deleveling.

And you would be very wrong because apart from that I was very interested. But I'd rather leave delevelling when you die to mmos from 20 years ago.
Regress is just stupid and pointless.

[ItMe]

And you would be very wrong because apart from that I was very interested. But I'd rather leave delevelling when you die to mmos from 20 years ago.
Regress is just stupid and pointless.

In Eureka it was useful.
You didn't get logograms drops from mobs if you were above their level.
In this new content... How deleveling interacts with the content has yet to be seen.

[Zsolen]

I'd argue that punishing death to a greater degree is useful in making sure people took more caution or at least socialized in the Eureka instances and took even more caution in BA.

[LaylaTsarra]

I'd argue that punishing death to a greater degree is useful in making sure people took more caution or at least socialized in the Eureka instances and took even more caution in BA.

You needed to be careful in BA. If your remembered logo didn't proc when you died the only way you would get a raise was for a healer to suicide themselves and hope their raise proc brings them back. The real fear of death made the content a lot more engaging in my opinion.

I would bring 3 Sacrifice logo's with me at the most so that meant 3 raises for those who needed it and tanks and healers got first priority.

[Darkplanet]

Same as Eureka, the gear you earn in Bozja will essentially be useless in the content you earn it in. All of those 5 slot melds in the gear? Gone with sync.

These systems simply seem extremely not thought through enough.

Although I think some of your fears are valid, you’re missing some key points, that gear you get has been hinted at having bonuses, similar to eureka bonus. So it seems like, eureka bonus won’t be blocked behind a hard to get into dungeon, a huge improvement. So they learned that

Also rng getting into the critical engagement, means literally no more portal sniping.

The solo 1v1 encounter, yea I’m sure there will be problems there, but we’ll have to wait and see.

So did they learn from eureka? they absolutely did. Will the solutions work out, they may or may not. I’m personally hopeful.

These solutions have been far more thought through then the 15 minutes people have thought about and panicked when seeing the live letter

[Zsolen]

You needed to be careful in BA. If your remembered logo didn't proc when you died the only way you would get a raise was for a healer to suicide themselves and hope their raise proc brings them back. The real fear of death made the content a lot more engaging in my opinion.

I would bring 3 Sacrifice logo's with me at the most so that meant 3 raises for those who needed it and tanks and healers got first priority.

I remembered being one of the ballsy healers that tried it on another healer. It worked, but it was scary. I was the only willing to try at that time, so if it did not work... rip.