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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    About the random spanws, 90% of the time it occurs when a player is dead. I am not sure why this is the case but it is (based on my observation.) From what I can gather, this may have something to do with the emnity mechanics and a dead body can cause random eruptions or "hax crax." In fact, I can't ever recall this happening when someone isn't dead.

    And yes, like I said earlier, lag is an issue and shouldn't be - but it is. You can work around it. I also want to point out that someone mentioned the "corpse slide" - this is the truefire way of telling if someone did or did not die from lag. At the same time, even with lag you can do this fight enough to be able to counteract it via experience.

    My best advice to players who are certain that the only limitation that is stopping them from victory is lag is this: get on mumble or skype or whatever else you have. This will almost always solve the problem. We have some LS members who are in the Middle East and had some struggles in their first attempt. We all got on a call and called out when to nuke and when to move and guess what? Easy wins. Just a suggestion.

    Again, yes, it is a problem. No, it shouldn't be. Yes, you can counteract it.
    This^

    No, the lag should not exist (to the extent that it does). No, the system is not perfect. Yes, it's a messed up piece of garbage. The simple reality is you need to adapt, incorporate, and overcome this inherent defect and play anticipating/assuming that it is there. It is the same as someone who drives to work every morning down a road with a giant pot-hole in it. No the pot-hole shouldn't be there but driving through it every day and messing up your car screaming "this should not be here" only hurts you. Learn to drive around it and maybe someday, to your surprise, it will be fixed, or maybe it will get larger in which case buy an SUV and drive on the grass.
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  2. #42
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    im suffering from R0 >.<
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forerunner View Post
    Whats this? I can run back onto the crack and have the explosions not damage me because the server still thinks I'm outside of the explosions? HOW IS THIS NOT LAG.



    What am I reading?
    like i said it takes practice, dont expect to run right into the explosion and not get killed. when you see the explosion happen give it about 1 second and you can run in normally. the cracks will still be there but you can run on them.
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    Last edited by syntaxlies; 02-03-2012 at 02:31 AM.

  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    About the random spanws, 90% of the time it occurs when a player is dead. I am not sure why this is the case but it is (based on my observation.) From what I can gather, this may have something to do with the emnity mechanics and a dead body can cause random eruptions or "hax crax." In fact, I can't ever recall this happening when someone isn't dead.

    And yes, like I said earlier, lag is an issue and shouldn't be - but it is. You can work around it. I also want to point out that someone mentioned the "corpse slide" - this is the truefire way of telling if someone did or did not die from lag. At the same time, even with lag you can do this fight enough to be able to counteract it via experience.

    My best advice to players who are certain that the only limitation that is stopping them from victory is lag is this: get on mumble or skype or whatever else you have. This will almost always solve the problem. We have some LS members who are in the Middle East and had some struggles in their first attempt. We all got on a call and called out when to nuke and when to move and guess what? Easy wins. Just a suggestion.

    Again, yes, it is a problem. No, it shouldn't be. Yes, you can counteract it.
    its the enmity attached to that person still, if someone dies near tank then you may get cracks if that person had alot of hate. tank should be careful not to get into animation locks if this happens so he can avoid it.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    like i said it takes practice, dont expect to run right into the explosion and not get killed. when you see the explosion happen give it about 1 second and you can run in normally.
    It takes practice abusing the lag? Wow. Did you even read my post?
    How HIGH do you even have to be... We are talking about the lag issues on Ifrit, your solution is to 'move quicker and use the lag to your advantage hurr'

    Please, for the love of God SE, implement an intelligence test for eligibility to post on these forums. I don't know what will give me an anurism first, pure rage, or idiotic comments like this.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forerunner View Post
    It takes practice abusing the lag? Wow. Did you even read my post?
    How HIGH do you even have to be... We are talking about the lag issues on Ifrit, your solution is to 'move quicker and use the lag to your advantage hurr'

    Please, for the love of God SE, implement an intelligence test for eligibility to post on these forums. I don't know what will give me an anurism first, pure rage, or idiotic comments like this.
    your the one crying about not being able to beat ifrit not me, i thought most members or Seriphm would have a little more self control then to start bashing someone on the forums for trying to help.
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    Last edited by syntaxlies; 02-03-2012 at 02:43 AM.

  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    your the one crying about not being able to beat ifrit not me
    Did I say I couldn't beat him? No.
    Did you read my posts? No.

    Look, in my hands, whats that? An Ifrit Weapon?



    Why yes, I think it is. Why can't I hold all this truth?
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forerunner View Post
    It takes practice abusing the lag? Wow. Did you even read my post?
    How HIGH do you even have to be... We are talking about the lag issues on Ifrit, your solution is to 'move quicker and use the lag to your advantage hurr'

    Please, for the love of God SE, implement an intelligence test for eligibility to post on these forums. I don't know what will give me an anurism first, pure rage, or idiotic comments like this.
    He isn't saying it doesn't exist and, from what I can see, is trying to give you options to work within a broken system since there is no current solution outside of this. Being snarky doesn't help you. In reality, you are guilty of what you just accused him of. By that measure, according to your belief, you yourself should no longer be allowed to post here.

    I can't think of a more idiotic example of lunacy then what you just did.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    i thought most members or Seriphm would have a little more self control then to start bashing someone on the forums for trying to help.
    Seraphim*

    Why get them involved? This is between me, you and all the help you don't give. Just idiotic posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    In reality, you are guilty of what you just accused him of.
    Yes, because when an eruption pops under my feet I don't run all the way across the instance and still get hit.

    Lunacy.
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    Last edited by Forerunner; 02-03-2012 at 02:50 AM.

  10. #50
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    Don't use abilities after the swipe and adjust your chat log to see Enemy TP moves and pt chat only. It's always someone trying to squeeze in another TP combo or spell after the swipe then comes the " wtf lag"

    If you're animation locked when it starts it will hit you, wether it looks like youre on it or not. Since he gives a 3 sec warning before every TP, it's hardly a serious issue. Just takes a little getting used to
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