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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    And tell me, how can you be certain that you are not the one indoctrinated by our current culture?
    Thousands and thousands of years of documented Patriarchy in 99% of all society.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    What a joke. Neo-feminists are the first who clame genders exist when it is time to attack feminity or masculinity as soon as it serves their purpose.

    Women must do more craftmanships!
    Women must have access to scientific studies!

    The problem is... Sweden case do the demonstration that when they have a "free" choice, in cultures where women are the less influenced by stereotypes, they will choose this kind of activities neo-feminist accuse "patricarchy" to call feminine and to "lock" women in.
    In Asia, it is the whole opposite. Many women who have access to studies at high level will choose sciences and to be engineer.

    Based on neo-feminist claming, this kind of thing is just totally impossible and shouldn't exist/happen.

    What you call "objectivity" against "patriarchal" construction IS a construction too and it's not even half objective. It is just another biais, a non assumed misandrie. Neo-feminists just want to play some kind of amazon game but don't assume it.

    You are just playing with words to protect your unobjective militancy.

    There is nothing to construct or to deconstruct, just to let people choose what they want based on their tastes (as soon as they respect laws, of course). Nothing more, nothing less.

    The worst, in fine, they clame they want to imitate men in what they have worst : these damn stupid ego games. These games, as a man, I've always despised since they are most of time only utterly plain stupid.
    I think you are conflating Neo-Feminism with modern Feminism. Neo-Feminism is a small counter-movement that believes Women are superior to Men, and that Women should conform to gender roles, rather than seeking equality.

    Look, Women can do whatever they like, if they want to do historically "feminine" things then that's their choice. My issue is when society tells you what a Woman should do. If a Woman wants to stay home and be a housewife and cook and clean, it should be because it's something she chooses to do, not because society dictates that it's something she should do, as a Woman.

    There is no inherent Masculine or Feminine activities, or interests. Only thousands of years of men, the ruling class, the church, telling women what they can and can't do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    Technically the burden of proof lies with you to disprove me.

    On what exactly are calling drivel though? The idea that men and women are different and therefore interested in different things? The ideology believing otherwise?

    Look up David Reimer as an example of how someone is raised doesn't change their nature.
    Sorry but that's just BS. You can't just say something and then say the burden of proof is on other to disprove you, that's not how the world works at all. Otherwise I could make any insane claim I wanted and say the burden is on you to prove me wrong.
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    Last edited by TheRealQuah; 07-22-2020 at 11:07 PM.