Ideas to reduce DF disagreements

[StriderShinryu]

I don't think it's a bad idea overall, but I'm not really sure how much legitimate use it would get especially if it bumped up the queue time. The more casual players would probably end up hedging their bets by selecting the A option and hoping they got along okay. Even the A option players would start hedging their bets too if the higher time spent in the queue started to eclipse the time they would save by running only with faster playing team mates.

And, really, it could be a tough fit for players who find themselves somewhere in the middle too. As an example, maybe they're new to tanking but want to try starting to push themselves. If they go A route they'll get crapped on by the hardcore crowd for not being good enough but then they'll be playing above the level of the C route players. Sure you could say that the players they end up with should just be understanding and communicate respectfully.. but if that was an option then we wouldn't need a change to the DF in the first place.

[Doozer]

I wouldn't mind having that option. And I also wouldn't mind having a longer queue if it means I don't have to chase some tank that's had too many Red Bulls. There was a whole dungeon plot about that, and I don't think a lot of people paid attention to it.

I don't like to rush through anything, whether it's an MMO or singleplayer. So it would be nice to queue with people in DF who want to just take it easy and maybe chat about the dungeon, instead of aggravating my likely developing carpal tunnel. I have nowhere to be, and speeding through a dungeon is not my cup of tea.

[LaughingBanana]

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So... thoughts? Alternative ideas? I'm curious.

So... what should Square put as the tick options on the DF menu?

(A) Competent people.
(B) Relaxed people.
(C) Take it slow people.

???

Since you say only people in group A expect competence, clearly insinuating that B and C people are not. Not really sure people would be happy about that.

To wit: I think this is unnecessary. If anything, such a thing will breed even more elitism and schism between players.

[DrWho2010]

So... what should Square put as the tick options on the DF menu?

(A) Competent people.
(B) Relaxed people.
(C) Take it slow people.

???

Since you say only people in group A expect competence, clearly insinuating that B and C people are not. Not really sure people would be happy about that.

To wit: I think this is unnecessary. If anything, such a thing will breed even more elitism and schism between players.

such options would be absolutely hilarious but yes i agree segregation of the player base is a bad idea. if joe tryhard can't stand to be paired with kevin wanna stop and smell the bushes then make your own party finder or just go with friends that you trust to play at your level.

[Quintessa]

The problem is expectations, frankly you're never gonna please most people playing..

[Kleeya]

If some people dread so much to meet players of different playstyles, they can already use the PF to avoid that. Just open up some "zero dps healer, single targeting in a pack or small pulls = kick" or "leave your salt in the kitchen" partys when doing your daily roulettes, and you are done. You know, in the same category that is only used by RMTs to sell their runs, and strangely never by legit players who could have a use for it.

[Yeol]

I would say no.

Back then the fastest way to level was to spam dungeons. As a new player, leveling tank and healer for the first time was very scary. I was afraid of big pulls, but I learned to accept them and they became the norm for me. It was thanks to the players who pushed me to try it. If not for them, I would probably still be single pulling and panic healing till max level. When you're leveling via dungeon spam, big pulls become the norm and you'd get used to them pretty fast.

Big pulls or smaller pulls, the dungeon will be cleared.
I'd accept doing small pulls if the group had a weaker link (Under-geared tank/healer or very low DPS). In this case, going with smaller pulls is the smart option.

[SugarPuff]

As someone who mostly avoids random groups, with an option to choose my preferred pace I'd give it another chance. I think one particularly nice thing about it would be that when my group is short one or two people we could then use the duty finder to fill that spot. Technically we COULD, right now, but none of us want to put some random person expecting a speed run in that position. Partly because we don't want to deal with any possible friction but also because it does seem unfair to force our play style on an unsuspecting stranger.

[MariaArvana]

As others have pointed out already, segregating the playerbase is not in their interests and would easily cause more harm than good. Yoshi-P has said on record that the point of roulettes is to fill queues; dividing them into 3 categories weakens the queues, making them take longer and completely defeats the point of the roulettes. (Which also, lets be honest. The vast majority will queue for al three or whichever of the three has the quickest queues, regardless of what their own self-perception may be, rendering this system ineffective on that front.)

The roulette bonuses are there as payment for dealing with the randomness the roulette will chuck at a player, whether dungeon or player related. There's already plenty of options for people to avoid playing with people they'd have issues with (create a PF, play as tank/healer + queue with a friend as the other so you two control the pace of the dungeon, votekick someone who's not in the mindset of the majority of the group for differences in playstyle, etc.)

[Packetdancer]

So... what should Square put as the tick options on the DF menu?

(A) Competent people.
(B) Relaxed people.
(C) Take it slow people.

I'm not sure that this is necessary; I think it might cause more trouble than it solves. But I do think it's possible to phrase the options in a way that wouldn't be too objectionable.

Preferred Playstyle:

• Aggressive: I prefer my groups pull multiple groups of mobs and try to burn them down fast with all roles focused on doing as much damage as possible, favoring speed of clear even where it might increase risk.
• Circumspect: I prefer my groups grab smaller groups of mobs and focus on playing more strictly to their roles, favoring reduced risk even where it might increase the length of time the duty requires to finish.
• No Preference: I have no preference and will happily run duties in either style, whatever others prefer.