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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    Why do the Ananta and Lakshmi have breasts being an all-female snake race?

    Because if she no have boob... how do know is woman???????????



    Thanks I hate it. :C
    Ananta I kinda give a pass because there's a distinct line between lady and snek, but the final boss of akademia Anyder really confuses me with her very simian fish boobies. (tho other than that she's a great design for a monstrous female character)
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  2. #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post



    Yes.. it's entirely subjective, so WHY bring it up?
    Uhh...you're the one that brought it up its subjective my guy not me? honestly you're just babbing at this point to keep this argument going and its not looking great. Saying something is subjective to gain a foothold is a weak argument.
    Because why have a debate at all because everything is subject which goes back to my point if you knew this, you were arguing for the sake of it. Seriously, but you're way too hardheaded.



    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    And we have people consistently living through life threatening injuries during the game as well.. however this doesn't mean we cant make the people look a little more human and less comic book fantasy. They decidedly did NOT leave the guys alone. They all have the same "realistic" face aesthetic the women do. Considering most of them started out with reasonably "normal" fighting clothes I don't see why they'd get that much of a change anyway.
    "Can't make people look a little more human" Dude? what are you even talking about? oh so women with large breast are not as human to you? but guys that was swole like a beast is? Man I must not look that human to you then because I'm pretty busty.
    Sorry the people in MK always looked human...aside the obvious ones.
    It's clear you never played mortal kombat so don't act like you know who was living through "life threatening injuries" canon wise in MK11 since that's when they decided to be "real". Just stop talking because you don't even know.
    Or are you talking about gameplay wise if thats the case...you're just repeating what I just said lmao?
    You're just babbing at this point dude. Just stop.
    They started out with "normal" fighting clothes...Oh you mean johnny cage who's shirtless? fighting demons, monsters and blades? totally suited for fighting people with swords of all sorts?


    So again..I ask you why so did females outfits change? why did the males get their classic outfits DLC while the females didn't? why did they change from head to toe in full bodysuit amour. Why were the females faces changed from their actual models to be less attractive? and the guys face models stayed untouched? oh I'm sorry. its subjective so no point talking about that. Your sexism is showing.
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  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirusOnline View Post
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    It's not a loaded question because it's something that's been around pretty much forever. Men get shamed for looking at a porn magazine yet women can read smutty romance novels that are just verbal pornography, which objectify both men and women, and it's perfectly acceptable (think 50 Shades of Gray). Women objectify themselves by reading books like that, but for some reason it's only bad if they believe men are doing it to them. On top of that it's an assumption that just because something is appealing that it's being objectified. It's entirely possible to admire and be attracted to something and not objectify it. As I've said before women are traditionally viewed as elegant and graceful, but somewhere down the line, somehow, it became a problem to appreciate that elegance and grace.
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  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    It's not a loaded question because it's something that's been around pretty much forever. Men get shamed for looking at a porn magazine yet women can read smutty romance novels that are just verbal pornography, which objectify both men and women, and it's perfectly acceptable (think 50 Shades of Gray). Women objectify themselves by reading books like that, but for some reason it's only bad if they believe men are doing it to them. On top of that it's an assumption that just because something is appealing that it's being objectified. It's entirely possible to admire and be attracted to something and not objectify it. As I've said before women are traditionally viewed as elegant and graceful, but somewhere down the line, somehow, it became a problem to appreciate that elegance and grace.


    Why would you even post this? This thread is one heck of a ride.
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  5. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post


    Why would you even post this? This thread is one heck of a ride.
    Read what I was replying to. I couldn't fit the whole quote due to post size and didn't feel like ninja editing.
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  6. #146
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    If 5.3 doesn't deliver us a
    sexy Elidibus!Ardbert fight where he magically loses half his armor in the phase change and we get dramatic close ups of his chest uh emotionally-fraught eyes
    then what am I even playing this game for?
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  7. #147
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    Yes please, more skimpy sexy male bosses, and without fur and bestial stuff in general.
    Eden's Ifrit was a big step in the right direction tbh.
    And if female bosses can wear thongs, why can't male ones?
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Ramuh looking fine too.
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    Marielle Sansoleil
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  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    Uhh...you're the one that brought it up its subjective my guy not me? honestly you're just babbing at this point to keep this argument going and its not looking great. Saying something is subjective to gain a foothold is a weak argument.
    Because why have a debate at all because everything is subject which goes back to my point if you knew this, you were arguing for the sake of it. Seriously, but you're way too hardheaded.
    My point was why do you think that them changing the character to something other than the flawless skinned , symmetrical faced, large breasted typical female representation was a bad thing? Can you answer that question?

    Everything is subjective insofar as I cannot see things as you see them or ever truly know what your perspective is. However that's beyond the argument here. There are many things that are NOT subjective so far as scientific observations are involved. So no, everything is NOT subjective. BUT we are arguing that the characters you perceive as "fugly" and "Bcup" was a downgrade and pandering. Aesthetics being VERY subjective, again, why was this a problem?


    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    "Can't make people look a little more human" Dude? what are you even talking about? oh so women with large breast are not as human to you? but guys that was swole like a beast is? Man I must not look that human to you then because I'm pretty busty.
    Sorry the people in MK always looked human...aside the obvious ones.
    The people in MK originally WERE human. All based on actual video capture. Then we started having CG characters and boobs got bigger, antigravity and rock hard. As someone with large breasts I'm sure you understand that two vertical strips of cloth aren't going to keep your chest in check while flip jumping and getting kicked in the face right? I'm wondering how you're arguing that when you likely daily have to deal with the problems of having a large chest.

    The people in MK were always supposed to be human, but have evolved into caricatures of the original concepts with exaggerated features, physiques, and movement. Having an aesthetic change isn't necessarily pandering.


    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    It's clear you never played mortal kombat so don't act like you know who was living through "life threatening injuries" canon wise in MK11 since that's when they decided to be "real". Just stop talking because you don't even know.
    Or are you talking about gameplay wise if thats the case...you're just repeating what I just said lmao?
    I am talking about gameplay, and I'm saying that I can accept that it's going to be unrealistic at times. However Making the ART STYLE more realistic isn't particularly bad.
    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    You're just babbing at this point dude. Just stop.
    They started out with "normal" fighting clothes...Oh you mean johnny cage who's shirtless? fighting demons, monsters and blades? totally suited for fighting people with swords of all sorts?
    at least he doesn't have to worry about his junk falling out during a fight? NOBODY in this game is set for fighting the things that get thrown at them, but at least now they're not wearing what looks like sexualized halloween costumes.



    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    So again..I ask you why so did females outfits change? why did the males get their classic outfits DLC while the females didn't? why did they change from head to toe in full bodysuit amour. Why were the females faces changed from their actual models to be less attractive? and the guys face models stayed untouched? oh I'm sorry. its subjective so no point talking about that. Your sexism is showing.
    Again.. the guys faces WERE changed.. are you looking at the same game I am? Everyone changed. Considering the men never really had the problem with clothing the women had, I'm not surprised their wardrobe changed so little.

    How am I sexist? that's a pretty heavy accusation. Or are you just saying buzzwords hoping to make me look bad?
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