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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    The line? How do you know?

    We hardly can compare the representation of sexualization and objectification since women and men don't exactly consider the same criterias to define what is sexy.

    Maybe it is my generation but women I know are less thrilled by a bare man body than by some kind of charisma/classy vibe.

    If we consider iconic sexy men, a lot of them are less noticable for their muscular apparence than their charisma.

    If we come to talk about objectification, the way men are represented as muscular beast (they look human or not) is clearly some kind of objectification.
    We're no longer in the territory of the original argument. You're dragging me into an argument of subjectivity.
    If you have an opinion on the original quote that I was responding to, feel free to address it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirusOnline View Post
    We're no longer in the territory of the original argument. You're dragging me into an argument of subjectivity.
    If you have an opinion on the original quote that I was responding to, feel free to address it.
    Maybe because you are nowhere objective as you believe to be?

    When we start to write " I want to be as unbiased as I possibly can, and perhaps it's easier for me to do so as I can platonically appreciate both male and female gender as a male myself." there already is a problem since we believe we are more objective than anyone else can be.

    We never can be objective since it is not only representation but also tastes and cultural (if not religious) beliefs.
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    Last edited by Eldevern; 07-21-2020 at 03:37 AM.
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