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[Absurdity]

Personally I feel like they went the opposite way. Her actions being independent of your casts made her feel more like she was a pet that you commanded.
Now she just feels like oGCDs with an unknown delay and chance to ghost. Yeah, her skills are now forced onto our hotbars, but we could still put them on our hotbars before too.

Not only did the SB fairy feel more responsive, she also required no weaving windows to execute her abilities because she was a separate entity which made using her a lot more flexible. It's almost hilarious how they "improved" the SCH fairy by undoing all the fixes they made to it in SB.

SCH isn't really a 'shield healer'. Not only are its shields weaker & less frequent than AST's (Noct Opposition is waay better than Consolation), but are completely detrimental to the way that the game is currently played (casting shields for anything other than lethal damge is a 100% waste with 0 damage return).
If you want shielding options so badly, how's about instead of just increasing a health buffer (which square wants us to avoid doing - see the Critlo change), we get skills that are more tactical and interesting.

That's why I don't really see the reason they nerfed critlo spread. Sure it was powerful but that was the WHOLE POINT. You gambled on a potential crit adlo to completely negate the next damage to the party which meant no healing was required at all. Now your shields are so weak that you will have to spend resources or gcds to heal anyway so you might as well not bother.

[Semirhage]

That's why I don't really see the reason they nerfed critlo spread. Sure it was powerful but that was the WHOLE POINT.

Recitation.
1) The SCH community had been asking for a guaranteed-crit ability for years
2) The community was (with fair regularity) abusing critlo spread to ignore mechanics
3) Squeenix doesn't like it when their mechanics get foiled

Put those three together, and you get nerfed, guaranteed critlo.

[Absurdity]

Recitation.
1) The SCH community had been asking for a guaranteed-crit ability for years
2) The community was (with fair regularity) abusing critlo spread to ignore mechanics
3) Squeenix doesn't like it when their mechanics get foiled

Put those three together, and you get nerfed, guaranteed critlo.

In that case Recitation was the wrong answer.

I'd argue people wanted a guaranteed crit ability for adlo for exactly those beefy shield spreads.
You rarely ever want to actually use Recitation on an adlo simply because of it's value as a free crit indom or excog and spread adlo being so incredibly weak.
Anything you'd mitigate with a spread adlo can be mitigated by a Succor and most of the time you don't need shields at all since you're gonna have to spend resources healing afterwards anyway.
The biggest benefit to those ridiculous adlo spreads was that the healers didn't need to spend anything on healing because nobody took any damage to begin with.


Even for single target mitigation there hasn't been a situation so far where a crit adlo is necessary or beneficial when a crit excog does the same job but better.

[bundythenoob]

In that case Recitation was the wrong answer.

I'd argue people wanted a guaranteed crit ability for adlo for exactly those beefy shield spreads.
You rarely ever want to actually use Recitation on an adlo simply because of it's value as a free crit indom or excog and spread adlo being so incredibly weak.
Anything you'd mitigate with a spread adlo can be mitigated by a Succor and most of the time you don't need shields at all since you're gonna have to spend resources healing afterwards anyway.
The biggest benefit to those ridiculous adlo spreads was that the healers didn't need to spend anything on healing because nobody took any damage to begin with.


Even for single target mitigation there hasn't been a situation so far where a crit adlo is necessary or beneficial when a crit excog does the same job but better.

I would add that deployed critlo might have more value with helping SCHs weakened healing and offence in SHB. as it stands, SCH as such low healing and damage that it could use the old critlo deployment combo in general. maybe even lower the cooldown of deployment to 90 secs if they wont give SCH back its offencive tools. I would also add eye for eye effect back on deployment to make it a little stronger too

[Gravagar]

In that case Recitation was the wrong answer.

I'd argue people wanted a guaranteed crit ability for adlo for exactly those beefy shield spreads.
You rarely ever want to actually use Recitation on an adlo simply because of it's value as a free crit indom or excog and spread adlo being so incredibly weak.
Anything you'd mitigate with a spread adlo can be mitigated by a Succor and most of the time you don't need shields at all since you're gonna have to spend resources healing afterwards anyway.
The biggest benefit to those ridiculous adlo spreads was that the healers didn't need to spend anything on healing because nobody took any damage to begin with.


Even for single target mitigation there hasn't been a situation so far where a crit adlo is necessary or beneficial when a crit excog does the same job but better.

Yup, this. As a former SCH main, I'm sure you know exactly how pissed I was to learn I finally got the one ability I've been wishing to get for YEARS, only for it to come at the cost of being unable to perform the very action I intended to use it on. Hell, it practically felt like encounters were designed to MAKE crit spread adlos feel like you just did something amazing, with mechanics like Grand Cross, Forsaken, Hello World that force the party to spread out right after chunking you. And somehow, SOMEHOW, Dissipation didn't get axed from the kit despite the massacre happening on all the buttons and features I actually used on a daily basis.



If SE doesn't like mechanics getting cheesed, take Hallowed and friends away from tanks. I'm kidding, don't do that, because nobody else deserves what happened to healers. Instead: Give WHM and AST cooldowns that are as awesome as pre-nerf Deployment. And then, when they have them, actually design encounters properly so that being able to deploy crit adlos doesn't automatically give you free wins.
...
...wait, what? You were never able to clear a fight for free just because you have crit adlos? The fights were actually designed properly? Huh. I guess it's not as overpowered as people make it out to be, huh?