The tawdry female bosses are tiresome, and we could do with more male fanservice.

[Skivvy]

You're right, a misogynist would never use a blindingly obvious dogwhistle like "tawdry female" to start a conversation. Silly me.



1. I never said any outfit in this game was "normal looking" (which seems a strange thing to argue in a fantasy world where you can go around looking like a frog if you want). So I don't know who you're responding to. It sounds like you imagined something I said that was easier to refute. I think there's a word for that, straw-something or other.

2. You might as well have just linked me to Dave Chapelle's "well you ARE wearing a *****'s uniform" bit. I wasn't convinced then, and I'm not convinced now.

3. If a woman's body is not obscene, why does it matter if an outfit a woman is wearing is obscene? The answer is it doesn't, unless the speaker actually means something else. They invariably do, and the word itself betrays why. "Obscene" is a word that relies on moral decency, or else it wouldn't work. You would just call it skimpy. But you don't. Instead, you use a word that appeals to some nebulous set of (historically, male-imposed) values that women should adhere to, a word that has been used to police and shame women for their bodies, behavior, and attire for far longer than you or I have been alive. I'm not surprised people still accept it, believe it, and use it - but again, it's very sad to see it lasts even in a space I like to escape to.

1) This was more for the overall thread. Go back and read some of the earlier comments and people are getting fussy over the use of the word "obscene". As far as what I'm considering "normal", things like what you see on Y'shota, Tataru, Ryne (not the primal), NPCs in town, etc.
2) I don't even know what you're getting at here.
3) An outfit can very well be obscene, hoochie, skimpy, etc without implying anything about the person themselves. Not every insult needs to be taken on a personal level.

Now I don't want to be jumping to any conclusions, but if you're seemingly so offended by someone using the phrase "tawdry females", are you also equally as offended by SE intentionally sexing up many of the bosses we encounter in game? Why do they so often have to be wearing skimpy little outfits? Who is that for? Why aren't the males handled in the same way?