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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    This doesn't seem to be accurate.

    On Crystal, on the low pop servers like Malboro and Zalera, there were plenty of small plots on max deval mostly in the Goblet, right up to the day of the autodemo freeze announcement.
    Oh it's pretty accurate on most servers. Lets be sure to find the low pop servers and the exceptions and not the ones where people are screaming for housing. Did you check Balmung? I have a friend on Balmung who would have loved a shot at a house but they were all sold before they opened them up for sales to privates. You're being pretty naive if you think FC's (true FC's) are buying those houses. They're not.

    And yes it's a problem when wards are sold out before going up for private sale and let me just say high pop servers should have a shot at housing as well.

    And I'm not talking mediums and large I'm talking the entire 3 new wards in all districts. We can even see the abuse in threads like these on the forum with the same person buying up an entire ward with the same FC tags. And that problem isn't limited to Gilgamesh you can even see that type of FC abuse happening on low pop servers like Spriggan. There is absolutely no excuse for giving FC's 3 months priority access.

    Everyone should get a shot at housing and not a select few on select servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    ...And I'm not talking mediums and large I'm talking the entire 3 new wards in all districts. We can even see the abuse in threads like these on the forum with the same person buying up an entire ward with the same FC tags. And that problem isn't limited to Gilgamesh you can even see that type of FC abuse happening on low pop servers like Spriggan. There is absolutely no excuse for giving FC's 3 months priority access...
    As a Balmung native, Balmung is one of the exceptions . Also it's funny you mention Spriggan- there are so many small plots right now on max deval even after the restriction on personals has been lifted for months.

    Everyone should get a shot at housing and not a select few on select servers.
    This might be something we agree on. But with the current persistent ward system, that chance for people on servers like Balmung is low.

    SE also uses housing as an incentive for people to get off congested servers. With crossworld visit and stuff like CWLS, all the more reason to move to servers with plenty of housing, if housing is a priority.

    I'll be leaving Balmung this year, as it's extremely difficult to get mediums/larges even with regular hourly sweeps,let alone dream mediums/larges, due to all the competition
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    As a Balmung native, Balmung is one of the exceptions . Also it's funny you mention Spriggan- there are so many small plots right now on max deval even after the restriction on personals has been lifted for months.
    I know all about Spriggan. I bought 5 houses there for me and friends (all smalls at low price), 4 of which are all in the same ward in Shirogane. It's pretty much all sold out now (at least Shriogane and Lavender are since i checked last) and yes it's certainly one of the exceptions to the rule.

    Look we can agree to disagree. You seem to think FC's are some gift to the housing community and the game but their sales are not being used as intended. The priority is being abused and private owners are paying the price and there is absolutely no reason why they should be given more than a week or two priority. I sincerely hope that private owners aren't about to pay the price again when potential new wards and a new housing area is added to the mix.

    Good luck with your medium or large.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I know all about Spriggan. I bought 5 houses there for me and friends (all smalls at low price), 4 of which are all in the same ward in Shirogane. It's pretty much all sold out now (at least Shriogane and Lavender are since i checked last) and yes it's certainly one of the exceptions to the rule.

    ...You seem to think FC's are some gift to the housing community and the game but their sales are not being used as intended. The priority is being abused and private owners are paying the price and there is absolutely no reason why they should be given more than a week or two priority. I sincerely hope that private owners aren't about to pay the price again when potential new wards and a new housing area is added to the mix...
    Friends just bought houses 2 days ago on Spriggan.

    My main point of contention, is that personal houses occupy ~70% of the houses available on NA DCs.

    Even if FCs are being abused for housing they are not the major problem. Imagine on high pop servers, what would happen to legit FCs, who are among that ~30%, without the purchase priority.

    Also, I've been advocating to improve apartments and delink the FC workshop from housing if SE is not going to change how the persistent ward system works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    My main point of contention, is that personal houses occupy ~70% of the houses available on NA DCs.
    Continue to defend FC purchases but you're wrong and the abuse is rampart and this is on Spriggan in the Goblet. Open up new wards and a new housing area and be sure to give people like this 3 months to do their thing with priority purchasing while wannabe private home owners have to sit and wait.

    https://i.imgur.com/2jopshK.png
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Continue to defend FC purchases but you're wrong and the abuse is rampart and this is on Spriggan in the Goblet. Open up new wards and a new housing area and be sure to give people like this 3 months to do their thing with priority purchasing while wannabe private home owners have to sit and wait.

    https://i.imgur.com/2jopshK.png
    Please provide data that FC houses occupy the majority of housing.

    There are 120,960 plots across the 3 North American Data Centers and as of earlier this week, 33,962 Free Companies owned a house.

    As of Jun 2020, 28.07% are owned as FC houses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    Please provide data that FC houses occupy the majority of housing..
    Why? I never said they did. Show me where i said that.

    I have said that FC purchasing priority is being abused and needs to stop and that people interested in purchasing private homes need to be given a fair shake. Providing FC's with extended purchase privileges (I do believe the last ward addition allowed them 3 months) so people willing to abuse the system can do what the image I provided clearly shows and that's not counting all the shell FC's with one owner and a bunch of alts interested in only one house.

    And I might add that was done in Ward 20 where only FC purchases were allowed or transfers. At best FC purchase priority should be no more than a week or two.
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