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  1. #11961
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    Burmecia's Avatar
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Zodiark
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    Archer Lv 100
    We have two flavour of demon horns and whatever ultima horns are. Oh and SMn has their summoner horns.
    Antler flavour of horns would be nice!! As head slot item For Everyone. I like that sort of savage/rustic shit.
    Old ass concept art of bunny men is good. Just give us viera. But men. Thank you. No antlers needed on them.
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  2. #11962
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    Driavna's Avatar
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Sagittarius
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I'm not worried about lore reasons for not having male Viera and female Hrothgar. Until SE finishes what we have now any talk about adding more is a big no for me.
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  3. #11963
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I suppose this argument again is as good as any to shepherd us to that 1200 mark.
    (1)
    WHM | RDM | DNC

  4. #11964
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    Banriikku's Avatar
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    Kasumi Bunja
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    Shiva
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Viera and Hrothgar still confuses me, onle one gender and still not finished ? Weird ....

    I support the wish for the other genders even if i dont think we will get them ^^ SE stance on this is clear. Ignor it until it goes away ;P
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  5. #11965
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Banriikku View Post
    Viera and Hrothgar still confuses me, onle one gender and still not finished ? Weird ....

    I support the wish for the other genders even if i dont think we will get them ^^ SE stance on this is clear. Ignor it until it goes away ;P
    What about only one gender each AND extremely limited customization. Still haven't seen the addition of any new hairstyles.
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  6. #11966
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    DBriggs304's Avatar
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    Fu Soya
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Banriikku View Post
    Viera and Hrothgar still confuses me, onle one gender and still not finished ? Weird ....

    I support the wish for the other genders even if i dont think we will get them ^^ SE stance on this is clear. Ignor it until it goes away ;P
    They were only unfinished to some people because of the gender thing...which they (SE) haven't ignored at all. They were clear why they are the way they are.

    It's some of the players that are ignoring that and choosing not to accept it.
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  7. #11967
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    Samniel Atkascha
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    You don't get to decide that lore from this game is somehow entirely separate from other entries in the franchise. I get that that suits your narrative and all but it doesn't make it so. Even the lore in game states male Viera aren't commonly found amongst the rest of society. We aren't playing padjal any time soon either for (amongst others) the same reason.
    You don't get to decide that lore from other games is somehow connected to this one. See how it works both ways? If anything, FF games are mostly unconnected to one another, UNLESS they're part of the same collection (The Ivalice Alliance games, the failed Fabulla Nova Crystallis series). With the Return to Ivalice storyline, it further cemented that XIV is UNCONNECTED to the Ivalice Alliance games, as those have a set timeline and things happen completely differently in the raid storyline.

    The devs are not going to add the missing genders in between patches. Thanks to corona it may actually hinder their plans (if they had any), of introducing them in an expansion. You're literally creating strawmen. Few people in hundreds of pages have said to introduce them in a patch, and the bulk of the Viera supporters know it's downright impossible and if it's going to happen at all it'd be in an expansion where there are more resources alloted, especially for cosmetics.

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I suppose this argument again is as good as any to shepherd us to that 1200 mark.
    It DOES cycle between "you perverts only want it to ERP"/But Lore!"/"But how will they look like?"/"But XII!" way too often for my liking
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  8. #11968
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    Banriikku's Avatar
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    Kasumi Bunja
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    Shiva
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DBriggs304 View Post
    They were only unfinished to some people because of the gender thing...which they (SE) haven't ignored at all. They were clear why they are the way they are.

    It's some of the players that are ignoring that and choosing not to accept it.

    Hmm okay. ^^

    But i dont share your opinion. Hrothgar and Viera missing a lot of customization and hairstyles .. i dont even speak of the genders.
    So in my opinion Viera (female) and Hrothgar (male) are incomplete AND deserve the opposite gender.

    Also SE ignores the topic and says "maybe" and "soon tm" without telling the simple thing : yes or no and in Liveletter they avoid all topics besides mechandise,
    artworks, "mods are bad" and "we dont have a too less content, just stop playing our game....".

    I like the game and respect the devs and SE but they dont need me to defend them just for the sake of defending. Give me an argument and we can discuss it ^^
    Maybe you can change my mind but atleast discuss the topic.
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  9. #11969
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    Arngrim_Greyashe's Avatar
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    Grimnir Greywolfe
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Banriikku View Post
    Hmm okay. ^^

    But i dont share your opinion. Hrothgar and Viera missing a lot of customization and hairstyles .. i dont even speak of the genders.
    So in my opinion Viera (female) and Hrothgar (male) are incomplete AND deserve the opposite gender.

    Also SE ignores the topic and says "maybe" and "soon tm" without telling the simple thing : yes or no and in Liveletter they avoid all topics besides mechandise,
    artworks, "mods are bad" and "we dont have a too less content, just stop playing our game....".

    I like the game and respect the devs and SE but they dont need me to defend them just for the sake of defending. Give me an argument and we can discuss it ^^
    Maybe you can change my mind but atleast discuss the topic.
    They didn't ignore the topic. They've said that if they're given time AND resources to make it happen, they will. There's no need for an update every live letter. I can guarantee that they definitely wouldn't confirm anything until a Fanfest anyways. The only way they'd say something was if it was an outright "No, we're not doing it." Yoshi P has stated before that he doesn't like definitively closing the door on something unless it's guaranteed it's not going to happen.

    As for the content drought, I'm fairly certain they know and have addressed it, apologizing. Covid has impacted many business, including SE. Things will take time. Just be patient.
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  10. #11970
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    Alacran's Avatar
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    Maeror Montealvo
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I find issue with SE for not being up front about the exclusion of the missing genders during the announcement of said races.

    The fact that they waited util the Jp fan fest to reveal this issue was damning in my eyes, and wont be forgotten. However that seems to be just my gripe.

    What really seals the deal with these characters being unfinished, is the fact that even Mog Station purchased hairstyles are not usable (not even a notice as to said buy options are not compatible with Veira or Hrothgar, a year after release...), and Hrothgar need Fantasia to change even small aspects of their characters (limited jobs, limited races... Whats next?).
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    Last edited by Alacran; 07-07-2020 at 06:45 AM.

    "Nemo me impune lacessit."

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