Classes & Jobs

[Felis]

My only complaint is that you don't start the job from level 1. I think it'd be a lot more enjoyable to level up the job from scratch, but I know some people will disagree.

We get new classes for this

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

I think I see where the OP was coming from.

Where say in 2.0, all gladiators are just paladins from the start. And setting a Paladin Stone ability on your action bar locks out cross class abilities. Still the armory system, with job names instead of class + job names.

I wonder if we'll reach a point where we just change classes via stones/drop downmenu, then wield more types of weapons on a class. Favor, required, and exclusive traits still influencing how we lean.

[Valmonte]

The Armory system is not that much different from XI's system. Stuff the moogle, Burn down the moghouse, and add the jobs to the weapons instead.

there's no Reason why XIV's Warrior Couldn't equip every weapon under the sun....just tag the weapons you wanted Warrior to have as (Required: GLA MRD WAR PLD)

[Colino]

The Armory system is not that much different from XI's system. Stuff the moogle, Burn down the moghouse, and add the jobs to the weapons instead.

Yet every XI humping fanboy fails to realize this. Nope, it has to be EXACTLY like FFXI or it's not worth trying.

[UmJammerSully]

Because a Job is designed for a specific task (WHM = healer, BLM = nuker) and a class is designed to be mixture and use abilities for other classes.

Class = Solo
Job = Group specific role

On paper maybe, yeah, but all the "party roles" provided by jobs are already right here on our current classes. Conjurer is already a healer, Thaumaturge is already a nuker, we're merely getting an extension of those roles.

I am with OP, just smash classes and jobs together, there's no need for them to be seperate.

Because there might be multiple jobs per class. Imagine Gla -> Paladin/DK/Samurai.

Why does everyone think of that as a good thing? It would mean if they do release Dark Knight or Samurai as just a job for Gladiator, all those jobs will be are 5 skills slapped onto the existing Gladiator skills. The differences between Paladin, Dark Knight or Samurai would be pretty minor and the majority of their skills would still be from Gladiator. Wouldn't it just be way more interesting to have entirely new classes?

[BlaiseLallaise]

The Armory system is not that much different from XI's system. Stuff the moogle, Burn down the moghouse, and add the jobs to the weapons instead.

there's no Reason why XIV's Warrior Couldn't equip every weapon under the sun....just tag the weapons you wanted Warrior to have as (Required: GLA MRD WAR PLD)

Better yet, just allow a job stone to be equipped on different classes. Same effect, but logically within the system they are building.

[Skies]

there's no Reason why XIV's Warrior Couldn't equip every weapon under the sun....just tag the weapons you wanted Warrior to have as (Required: GLA MRD WAR PLD)

Little problem with your base there: Weapon defines class, and each weapon can only be tied to one class (nothing stops a BOW that is a Pugilist's Arm, mind, HOWEVER that would be counter-intuitive) since that is a given of the system So a Warrior could only, in fact, equip the armament of the classes that can equip the Warrior Job Stone. Which could be 1, 2 or even 8, who nows what'll be done.

I think this is more of a nitpick and less of arguing your actual point, though, feel free to ignore.

[Valmonte]

Little problem with your base there: Weapon defines class, and each weapon can only be tied to one class (nothing stops a BOW that is a Pugilist's Arm, mind, HOWEVER that would be counter-intuitive) since that is a given of the system So a Warrior could only, in fact, equip the armament of the classes that can equip the Warrior Job Stone. Which could be 1, 2 or even 8, who nows what'll be done.

I think this is more of a nitpick and less of arguing your actual point, though, feel free to ignore.

that would be true if i were talking about a Class, however i was referring to a job. as far as we know there isn't an armory weapon associated to any job aside from the obvious Parent class weapons. the Warrior job could be given/or learn a trait(s) that allows it to equip any weapon. Skill Manuals immediately come to mind.