Suspending Auto-demo is always a terrible idea: A small rant.

[TDChangeling]

I'm aware I'm going to get lit up for this, but I'm sorry, it's just a fact.

I understand, and commend, what SE is trying to do with it, but in effect, it's just dumb.

If anyone is having serious problems in the real world, be the cause natural disaster, pandemic, or just personal issues, those problems will be severe enough that losing a digital dollhouse is hardly on their list of priorities.

Meanwhile, it punishes players that can still enjoy the game, and makes abuse far more rampant, by means of bots buying houses on alts to sell them. (To wit, on Famfrit, there exists someone using the tag 'freestyle (class)' who currently owns 7 houses in a single district, none of them with any buildings on them.)

It's a nice gesture, but it is one that I feel isn't thought out, and open to abuse, because we can't have nice things without someone coming along and ruining it.

[Tranquilmelody7]

No.

People that are impacted by national, or global crises may certainly appreciate having access to their "little dollhouse."
Heck, if their real residence is impacted... it may even feel like a blessing to them.

Would you honestly feel satisfied promptly claiming a house from someone who has a victim of COVID-19?
Even if I didn't have a house, I sure as hell wouldn't.

Botting is also by no means mutual to auto demolition suspensions, the very notion is frankly outrageous.
The housing system could definitely use some improvements to curb botting activity, but not suspending demo timers during a global crisis is no such solution.

Ishgard housing will most likely be introduced in the future.
You're just going to have suck things up and wait until the situations change - like many current home owners have done previously.

[ForteNightshade]

You're essentially asking to take advantage of people in financial crisis due to Covid or whatever else might be going on. All because you want a house. Do you not see the entitlement there?

It's undeniable at this point FFXIV's housing system is immensely flawed and poorly thought out. However, that is the fault of SE not the playerbase.

[ItMe]

If anyone is having serious problems in the real world, be the cause natural disaster, pandemic, or just personal issues, those problems will be severe enough that losing a digital dollhouse is hardly on their list of priorities.

Right. It's nice that SQEX understands that and doesn't kick people when they're down.
Unlike what you want to do.
If you got hospitalized with the virus and came back only to see a bot had bought your house I'm sure you'd be instead putting up threads about how we needed to suspend auto-demolish.

Meanwhile, it punishes players that can still enjoy the game, and makes abuse far more rampant, by means of bots buying houses on alts to sell them. (To wit, on Famfrit, there exists someone using the tag 'freestyle (class)' who currently owns 7 houses in a single district, none of them with any buildings on them.)

It's a nice gesture, but it is one that I feel isn't thought out, and open to abuse, because we can't have nice things without someone coming along and ruining it.

Those people who buy up every house they can by and large seem to do so in protest to the way the housing system works.
Get angry at them for making housing harder for everyone else. Sounds like your issue should be with people trying to take advantage of the system, and not the imperfect system itself (though it should change too, that is tangential to your point about auto-demolish).

As for your point about how the suspension is being abused, I think you're point is getting a little lost there.
If bots are buying up every house they can (like you seem to be claiming) how stopping people from losing their houses amount lead to bots buying up houses in a way that abuses the suspension? Their behavior would be the same either way. The way things are they're just not able to take advantage of people.

[KayRadley]

Ok, Karen.

[Limonia]

If anyone is having serious problems in the real world, be the cause natural disaster, pandemic, or just personal issues, those problems will be severe enough that losing a digital dollhouse is hardly on their list of priorities.

I think I would be even more devastated if on top of severe real-life issues I would lose my house in FFXIV as well. It's something I really love, something that is fun and makes me happy. It doesn't matter at all that it's digital if it makes me happy - losing it would make me sad.

I mean, the way you say it even sounds like those players will return to the game after their problems have been resolved. Returning to something you love after hard times is worth a lot. Even if it's a video game. If someone doesn't plan to ever return, then I understand it, but you should always assume first that the issues are only temporary.

If someone likes to paint and gets their arm broken you wouldn't just give away a third of their utensils just because he can't paint for a while. Even if others would love to use their expensive materials.

[Jirah]

Don’t sub loose Home, halting the entire housing market like this is a bad choice and bloats it becoming what it is today. I even say they should get stricter with FC homes. Looking at you 100+ fc with no active members one besides the lead who own an 3 mansions

[Kenky]

we can't have nice things without someone coming along and ruining it.

Then why are you trying to ruin it, exactly?

I'm going to end up simply re-posting what I had said in another post somewhere on this Housing Forum, simply because it seems to fit a bit too well here.

If you were in their position, you would be thanking SE for offering to relieve some of the stresses of the current events, rather than condemn them because you are unaffected.

Not everyone at this current point has the ability to log-in and play. Life takes priority, especially during the majority of this year and, despite what plenty of people tend to believe, not everyone is rolling in disposable income. In fact, during this crisis, I know of plenty of friends and their families having to cut down to barely staving off starvation, just to get by. Purely because they can't work their jobs or get paid as a result of the crisis. I know they all love to play FFXIV and all are very appreciative that SE was kind enough to give them a pat on the back and a "Don't worry, we'll keep things safe for you 'till you get back" mentality.

What SE has chosen to do is purely to help those that can't help themselves right now. Anything that comes as a result of that choice is not their problem, at least not yet. Botting has always been a rampant issue and SE could really do to get more heavy-handed with their response to them. But I don't think now is the time to take the gloves off.

[Awha]

My man low key do you want a plot? I will "gift" ya a small I have on Fam? Will be tied an an FC though.

Don’t sub loose Home, halting the entire housing market like this is a bad choice and bloats it becoming what it is today. I even say they should get stricter with FC homes. Looking at you 100+ fc with no active members one besides the lead who own an 3 mansions

If that leader is active why does it matter? A player is actively using the plot for their desired purpose.

[LaylaTsarra]

Don’t sub loose Home, halting the entire housing market like this is a bad choice and bloats it becoming what it is today. I even say they should get stricter with FC homes. Looking at you 100+ fc with no active members one besides the lead who own an 3 mansions

I totally agree. FC have become a joke in the housing market with shell FC's purchased with a main and alts as members. It's only made worse by SE's willingness to give them priority purchase rights for months before those interested in privates can get a shot at purchasing a house for the first time.

And I'm all for a paying sub is all that should be required to keep a house. The 45 day timer needs to go as well. Seems demolition is off more than it's on.