Thoughts on the new Mogstatoin look? [FFXIV store ]

[Endeleon]

Their point went so far above your head I fear it might get hit by a plane.

Nah they are just sensationalizing. If you don't like mogstation items, don't buy them. it's that simple.

Also I have never, not once, seen someone who makes this claim come with proof that glamour items have been removed from the game or are coming at lower frequencies. We still get a new glamour set per patch, we still get the same amunt of new dungeon items(which will change due to the thankful removal of dungeons in future and likely be implemented a different way), we got the ishgard items, which has actually been more than Stormblood Doman items. I could go on.

But at the end of the day, if you want to make these claims that the mogstation is hurting the game, you are the ones who need to make the research and stats happen. You need to provide evidence.

Because all I've seen is that is has given us the EU servers, it has given us things like cross world, and world visit, and more high profile collabs in alliance raids. Give me proof!

[Wind-Krysvein]

Nah they are just sensationalizing. If you don't like mogstation items, don't buy them. it's that simple.

Because all I've seen is that is has given us the EU servers, it has given us things like cross world, and world visit, and more high profile collabs in alliance raids. Give me proof!

Sensationalizing? Perhaps so. As a matter of fact, I hope you're right.

However, to set the record straight, I never said I was against cash shop items in this game. I've spent quite a lot of money on them actually (https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...2054218/mount/ for proof, and that's just the mounts) and not once has there been any sort of buyer's remorse.

What I am saying is I am a little worried that this may mark the beginning of greater focus on microtransactions. Emphasis on "a little worried" and "may", as opposed to "100% sure" and "will". There is a difference, and it's not a small one.

[Quintessa]

Sensationalizing? Perhaps so. As a matter of fact, I hope you're right.

However, to set the record straight, I never said I was against cash shop items in this game. I've spent quite a lot of money on them actually (https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...2054218/mount/ for proof, and that's just the mounts) and not once has there been any sort of buyer's remorse.

What I am saying is I am a little worried that this may mark the beginning of greater focus on microtransactions. Emphasis on "a little worried" and "may", as opposed to "100% sure" and "will". There is a difference, and it's not a small one.

You can worry when gear starts showing up in there.

[Klaleara]

You can worry when gear starts showing up in there.

While I'd be happier if gear showed up in there, and cosmetics stayed free.

If all the best looking stuff starts showing up in the store, thats when I take my leave. Thankfully, that hasn't happened yet, at all.

[Arillyn]

While I'd be happier if gear showed up in there, and cosmetics stayed free.

If by gear you mean actual battle gear with stats and not glamour, that would be the day I quit this game.

[Klaleara]

If by gear you mean actual battle gear with stats and not glamour, that would be the day I quit this game.

That was my point, different strokes for different folks. I give no F's about raid tier gear and the likes. I just care about how I look.

[Wind-Krysvein]

You can worry when gear starts showing up in there.

As far as I know, I'm allowed to worry whenever I feel like it.

Microtransactions are a huge thing in today's gaming market, so it's only natural to be cautious. Furthermore, that good ol' "it's just cosmetics" argument hasn't been a proper argument for ages because, to mirror someone who posted before me, if all the cool-looking stuff ended up in the cash shop, it'd be just as bad as having the strongest gear in there, for there are probably just as many glamour-focused people in the game as there are stats-focused people.

It's all a matter of perspective.

[Quintessa]

As far as I know, I'm allowed to worry whenever I feel like it.

Microtransactions are a huge thing in today's gaming market, so it's only natural to be cautious. Furthermore, that good ol' "it's just cosmetics" argument hasn't been a proper argument for ages because, to mirror someone who posted before me, if all the cool-looking stuff ended up in the cash shop, it'd be just as bad as having the strongest gear in there, for there are probably just as many glamour-focused people in the game as there are stats-focused people.

It's all a matter of perspective.

Whoa you took my statement both the wrong way and way too personally. I meant no disrespect/ill will/sarcasm or whatever you think I was conveying with that statement.

Let me say this a different way, there is cause for worry if gear starts showing up there, not glam gear either, like buying current stuff. If you've never played a full p2p game believe me, it's not a good thing.

Edit: Clearly you have but I stick by my statement still. It's all good so long as they don't go the pay to win route. I've come from 2 MMO that was pretty bad with P2P and they are both dead now.

[Wind-Krysvein]

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Ah, alright. These forums are so full of sarcastic snarky mcsnarkfaces that at some point you start seeing everyone and everything in that light. My apologies, and no offense taken.

I've indeed played fully pay-to-win games before (Kingdom Hearts Union Cross, dear lord the gacha was so bad) and yeah, I agree that having the best gear up there for sale in the cash shop would indeed be very, very bad. No disagreement there.

What I meant to display with my statement was that despite what the game industry has been trying to push for the past decade or so, having "only" all the best cosmetics in there would be just as bad for the playerbase as having the best gear. Strong gear is coveted by people for its value in combat. An amazing glamour item is coveted by people for its value in looking cool/hot/whatever. If the amount of people in the game who wish to look cool equals or trumps the amount of people who wish to beat the hardest battle content, then the perceived value of cosmetics equals or trumps the perceived value of battle gear.

It's all subjective to what the playerbase considers desirable. And we all know the glam game is very strong in FFXIV.