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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaOZ View Post
    I have been waiting the option to share the house with alts for years, Square Enix should give this a slightly higher priority and get it done already.
    Their priority right now is getting 5.3 out, which, in the grand scheme of things, is more important.

    Get an apartment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KayRadley View Post
    Their priority right now is getting 5.3 out, which, in the grand scheme of things, is more important.

    Get an apartment.
    A lot of us have apartments, but we would like to see housing addressed in a serious way, soon™.
    I already have a house myself, and an apartment etc, but I do absolutely hope they inform us soon about the end result of the Ishgardian restoration, so that people do have an informed basis to make the decision to either stick it out and endure living in an apartment or just abandon ship for something like BDO. It may not be "as important" for a lot of people frequenting the forums to have their online slice of life sim in their MMO of choice, but rest assured, there are many players (myself included) that very much enjoy online life sim whether it be some dissatisfaction with real life drama or a personal desire to more deeply withdraw from society and connect with other introverts and bug each other at our online houses.

    I did have a nice house on Aion like 8 or 9 years ago, (it has been a while), and at that time it was handled similarly to FFXIV except they had a rent system there, I think you could pay in advance like 3 weeks at a time, but they also had apartments, and I can not remember the details on that, I think they just give you one of those at some point. The rent kept people logging in at least to ensure they put the requisite funds on their house signs to keep their properties, so at least THAT was something. I'm kind of just turned off from many aspects in this game other than housing right now, (pvp is total disappointment for me, and sure let's just say I'm bad at it, but I at least had fun with it at a previous time.) I would not be in the slightest way slighted if at some point they decided that during the course of the msq you are offered a free house, somewhere, whether it be an enormous massively expanded apartment, or even a plot of land that can have a house put on it, that is just a "shell" of a house that when you walk into it, there is no separate instance for the house, but the camera zooms in and only allows you to really view the interior of the house as if it were instanced off ( I am probably explaining this poorly, I do not claim to be well educated or informed, I blame everyone but me for this.. no but really, I blame me.) And this is only offered to the character if they do not already own a ward house. If they DO own a ward house, they are asked to give it up if they want to receive this free house. That kind of helps I guess limit server capacity issues, slightly but they will need to address these limits over time (hopefully much easier to do than blowing out 50+ always active wards each world etc). Would it take coding and "dev resources"? Absolutely. Is that an absolute "no way in hell that'll happen then", No, I don't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sauteed View Post
    but I do absolutely hope they inform us soon about the end result of the Ishgardian restoration, so that people do have an informed basis to make the decision to either stick it out and endure living in an apartment or just abandon ship for something like BDO.
    They almost never give us details until the content is about to be released (usually one of the live letters before the release patch). I don't expect it to be any different for Ishgard housing.

    Based on the pacing of the Restoration so far, housing won't be getting released until the 5.5 patch. They're highly unlikely to make any significant changes to the housing system before Ishgard's release. Maybe they'll add on another 3 wards in the meantime like they did in 5.1? I doubt it.

    "Gimme this one thing I want or I quit" has never been a successful tactic to try with game developers. Housing in general, and houses in particular, are a very small part of the overall content in the game. If people are going to quit over not being able to buy a house, then it sounds like they're really not enjoying FFXIV overall and the lack of a house is just the excuse they pick for why they're leaving. Getting a house probably wouldn't change their overall satisfaction enough to keep them from quitting.

    If the player doesn't plan to quit completely but just wants to take a break from the game to play other things for a while while waiting for more content to be released, the dev team actively encourages players to do that regardless. They don't want anyone getting burned out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KayRadley View Post
    Their priority right now is getting 5.3 out, which, in the grand scheme of things, is more important.

    Get an apartment.
    is it because honestly its not going to get people to stay on longer than 3 months ... they will add like 7 quest tops to the msq a little grind on relic part and then another raid phase...

    I hate to say this .. but honestly adding more housing options and stuff is almost more important than a temp moment of enjoyment
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    Quote Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru View Post
    I hate to say this .. but honestly adding more housing options and stuff is almost more important than a temp moment of enjoyment
    Collectively the player base spends a lot more time in that other content than they do in housing, even if that might be different in your specific case.

    So honestly, no. More housing stuff isn't more important than the rest of the game. That's not saying that the housing system isn't in need of improvement. It's saying that it doesn't deserve top priority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Collectively the player base spends a lot more time in that other content than they do in housing, even if that might be different in your specific case.

    So honestly, no. More housing stuff isn't more important than the rest of the game. That's not saying that the housing system isn't in need of improvement. It's saying that it doesn't deserve top priority.
    i never said it was overall but its more important than a patch that won't satisfy longer than 3 months while waiting for the next one lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru View Post
    i never said it was overall but its more important than a patch that won't satisfy longer than 3 months while waiting for the next one lol
    Better a patch with multiple content additions that keeps the player engaged for 3 months than a patch that just adds more houses so the player is engaged only for a week.

    Stop and truly think about what you're asking for. We know 5.3 is bringing us:
    A new chapter in the MSQ that includes both a new dungeon and a new trial (with EX version as well)
    The second part of the YoRHa Alliance raid
    The new Unreal Trials, which does something a lot of players have been asking for - scales old content up to max level instead of scaling down players down to the old level plus adds in a new mini-game with special prizes for those who complete the trial each week.
    New beast tribe quests
    A new phase of the Ishgard Restoration, including a new leaderboard competition
    The next phase of the relic weapon chain, which should be fairly grind heavy

    But you'd rather see SE discard all of that and just give players more houses instead. Players who don't have a house already will be able to get one, then they'll decorate it (takes a week, maybe two, when you never had a chance to decorate before and you're playing with ideas), then they'll...

    Sit at their house staring into space the next 5 months because they don't have anything else to do?

    House decorating really doesn't offer a lot of game play by itself. Even The Sims, the game that pops into everyone's head when someone says "housing game", figured that out. They added night clubs and amusement parks and vacation resorts (probably other things after I stopped playing it) to keep the game interesting.

    Don't get me wrong. I enjoy housing. I'm glad it's part of the game. There's something satisfying about being able to go into my own house (or apartment in the case of the my alts) when I log in to check my retainers, do a little crafting, instead of being stuck in one of the cities to do those things.

    But without all the other content that gets added in content patches, housing would not be enough to keep me playing the game. On the other hand they could take away housing and while I would be disappointed, I would continue to play the game because that the content is what I spend most of my time doing when I'm logged in.

    Fortunately, SE is capable of working on updates to housing along with all the other content. We know we've got housing updates coming when Ishgard Restoration is completed, with at least a new housing district if not the wild dream of instanced house plots. Try being patient until then. Apartments are still there if you need a housing fix. They might be small but there are players doing amazing things with apartments just as they have with houses.
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