Jealous of Shiva's curves

[TeraRamis]

Because according to the dev's adding any new feature to CC for the existing races is next to impossible. Realistically it's likely because they don't want to have resize the meshes for every item in the game to fit a new body. It's been a year and we still don't have even half the hats in the game for Viera or Hrothgar, and the ones that are in the game were done in the devs' free time of their own volition, so we already know it's not something they like to put their focus into.

That's fair. But why do all new races have to be so slender, too? Arguably there they (SE) can do whatever they want. Couldn't some species added down the road have just a slightly more generous body? How about curvy kitsunes?



I'm not asking for plus size here. I'm not even asking, necessarily, for Marilyn Monroe at her thickest. Just something that isn't size zero.

[MariaArvana]

That's fair. But why do all new races have to be so slender, too?

Short answer: because of how the gear system works.

Long answer: Player characters in FF14 are akin to Lego - you don't have any body underneath your choice of clothing/armor/etc. Whenever you equip a new piece of armor/clothing/etc, it BECOMES your body. Any 3D model that shows skin is built into the piece itself (You can see this best in the 2B's pants giving your character a sudden rear upgrade, or Minfillia's outfit upgrading your bust to super size even if you're at 0 on the slider).

As a result, if they wanted to design a race that had different proportions to the rest of them, that race would need to have every piece of armor in the game specifically tailored to that race's proportions, which would be a titanic amount of work. So rather, they use the proportions of Female/Male Hyurs and then do slight height scaling on them to fit your character's height. The only exceptions to this are Lalafell & (Male)Roegadyn/Hrothgar, which have specialized pieces for them due to the nature of their bodies (The exception here being that they've been around since 1.0, so Hrothgar got a piggyback). Basically, the hope of them ever introducing a new race that would have different proportions/thiccness to one of the current ones is basically null due to the titanic amount of work it would require.

To put it in perspective, someone told me there's about 15,000+ piece of equipment in this game currently. For a new race to have different proportions than a current established race, ALL 15000+ would require re-meshing and editing to make it work. It's easy to see why they're not exactly in the biggest mood to use anything besides the female Hyur body type for future races.

[TeraRamis]

Short answer: because of how the gear system works.

Long answer: Player characters in FF14 are akin to Lego - you don't have any body underneath your choice of clothing/armor/etc. Whenever you equip a new piece of armor/clothing/etc, it BECOMES your body. Any 3D model that shows skin is built into the piece itself (You can see this best in the 2B's pants giving your character a sudden rear upgrade, or Minfillia's outfit upgrading your bust to super size even if you're at 0 on the slider).

As a result, if they wanted to design a race that had different proportions to the rest of them, that race would need to have every piece of armor in the game specifically tailored to that race's proportions, which would be a titanic amount of work. So rather, they use the proportions of Female/Male Hyurs and then do slight height scaling on them to fit your character's height. The only exceptions to this are Lalafell & (Male)Roegadyn/Hrothgar, which have specialized pieces for them due to the nature of their bodies (The exception here being that they've been around since 1.0, so Hrothgar got a piggyback). Basically, the hope of them ever introducing a new race that would have different proportions/thiccness to one of the current ones is basically null due to the titanic amount of work it would require.

To put it in perspective, someone told me there's about 15,000+ piece of equipment in this game currently. For a new race to have different proportions than a current established race, ALL 15000+ would require re-meshing and editing to make it work. It's easy to see why they're not exactly in the biggest mood to use anything besides the female Hyur body type for future races.

Uhm, but...

[MariaArvana]

Uhm, but...

So rather, they use the proportions of Female/Male Hyurs and then do slight height scaling on them to fit your character's height.

Internally in the engine's backend, all the bodies except Roe's (which hrothgar pigback off of)and Lalas are height scaled version's of the Male Midlanders. Like I said, creating a new race that uses different thick proportions compared to the stock Female/Male Hyur models requires a complete re-meshing & re-tooling of their entire gearset catalogue, hence why every race since ARR uses pre-existing body types.

[MsQi]

I'm not asking for plus size here. I'm not even asking, necessarily, for Marilyn Monroe at her thickest. Just something that isn't size zero.

Marilyn wasn't very thick. Sizes were different then. She had an unusually narrow waist.