Healers who rescue pull tanks into mobs.

[Avidria]

It's a poorly designed skill. After playing a priest in WoW, 14's versions of it is just horrible. With 14's low tick rate server, by the time you use rescue the person you're trying to use it on most of the time still gets hit or whatever will happen to them. Rescue is an instant cast but IT'S NOT INSTANT in any way.

I just don't even have it on my bars. It's useless 98% of the time.

Oh yeah phrased it better than me, this is my biggest problem with rescue
Compared to life grip and heck, even swtor's version, FF's is a headache and a half to use. Most of the time it feels like a welp, I got nothing else so hope this works... it just doesn't feel good to use. Even when it does work it's more of a holy crap thank God that actually worked than anything lol

[Yue_Amariyo]

Meh, as I said in another post for me it is far from abuse, but that is mostly for personal reasons since I grew up around abuse between my parents, but if you want to lump trolling as abuse by all means go for it. I personally do not consider trolling abuse. Just my personal take on it, just for me it seems silly to lump a minor inconvenience or trolling with abuse but hey if you do that is cool.

Personally I think some players are tad too thin-skinned or take things far too personally and get worked up over nothing. End of the day it is a minor inconvenience at worst. It is like what a 2 min cool down? It is certainly not something that can be spammed, as much as I wish it was.

I get ya, and have a similar back ground but cant let personal experience cloud your definition of a word.

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

LEVELS AST, RIGS DF TO ALWAYS GET IN A GROUP WITH OSITHA, PROCEEDS TO USE RESCUE ON COOL DOWN 5 TIMES TO MAKE IT NOW BOTH HANDS.

xD

Alright, please change Rescue before Quintessa levels her ast.

[Awha]

I get ya, and have a similar back ground but cant let personal experience cloud your definition of a word.

I get ya and in the strictest sense sure it is abuse in sense it is being used as not intended. Let us be real when most people use abuse in this context they do not mean it simply as a misuse of a skill.

The reality is we live in a world that is quick to tbrow around trigger words like abuse, harassment, toxic etc . . . they are buzz words and personally even if the definition fits in the strictest sense. In the grand scheme trolling someone using a skill to bother someone honestly should be fairly low on the spectrum of what is toxic, harrassment, abuse etc . . . but that is me.

I do not care enough about my fellow player to honestly care all that much if they think I am a toxic. harassing or abusing them in a video game. Sure on some deeper level it may annoy me players in this game are so thin skinned that little things like momentarily stripping them of control is enough to send them into a fit be it minor or major. I am of the mindset no one is solely innocent something must have triggered the reaction. Granted in some rare cases maybe it was nothing, but often times when someone ends up complaining about behavior done to them they are not solely innocent.

Peeps should learn from these little things like when someone pulls for them, or if someone calls them out for poor damage. Sure it is nice when advicd is given a friendly manner. Though even rude advice can still be constructive just depends on how you choose to receive it. One can play the victim card, or they can take the proactive approach and try to figure out what they could have done that would warrant such a reaction. Has little to do with the meaning of yhe word, and more so people hiding behind the meaning as a means of not having to accept some form of personal responsibility for their actions.

[HeyMcFly]

I've used rescue for many reasons, to move a player out of a mechanic they hadn't realized would have ended them,
I've used it to pull the tank further to show him/her which direction to go, to force them to pull larger mobs-
I used it most recently bc an FC mate just stood in every mechanic & got hit knowing I'd heal him, typically I just let people die when they refuse to move out of mechanics but I had enough & just rescued him each time it was up bc his playstyle irks me.

[LalaRu]

A tank pulling 1 group at the time is not a tank Lol

It depends the situation.
For a thin-paper tank better one group at time than a wipe at time.
For healers with abysmal healing force better one group at time than a wipe at time.
For dps force single-targetting everything, better one group at time and give healer room for the missing dps.
Last but not least, when all and everything is going horribly wrong, better half hour of penalty than one hour of suffering. Maybe.

As healer, I found rescue so much handy to keep in track the impatient ranged dps leaving the platform on Atomos.

[Yue_Amariyo]

I get ya and in the strictest sense sure it is abuse in sense it is being used as not intended. Let us be real when most people use abuse in this context they do not mean it simply as a misuse of a skill.

The reality is we live in a world that is quick to tbrow around trigger words like abuse, harassment, toxic etc . . . they are buzz words and personally even if the definition fits in the strictest sense. In the grand scheme trolling someone using a skill to bother someone honestly should be fairly low on the spectrum of what is toxic, harrassment, abuse etc . . . but that is me.

I do not care enough about my fellow player to honestly care all that much if they think I am a toxic. harassing or abusing them in a video game. Sure on some deeper level it may annoy me players in this game are so thin skinned that little things like momentarily stripping them of control is enough to send them into a fit be it minor or major. I am of the mindset no one is solely innocent something must have triggered the reaction. Granted in some rare cases maybe it was nothing, but often times when someone ends up complaining about behavior done to them they are not solely innocent.

Peeps should learn from these little things like when someone pulls for them, or if someone calls them out for poor damage. Sure it is nice when advicd is given a friendly manner. Though even rude advice can still be constructive just depends on how you choose to receive it. One can play the victim card, or they can take the proactive approach and try to figure out what they could have done that would warrant such a reaction. Has little to do with the meaning of yhe word, and more so people hiding behind the meaning as a means of not having to accept some form of personal responsibility for their actions.

honestly, and I might be reaching, id say you need somewhere to go to find someone to talk you.. you come off hurt/ hurting by something like very defensive as you seem complacent with victim blaming. Which btw is never a good thing. It is good to call out people who play victims, in situations like ppl act like the butt.. but when called out cry.
Real victims are just that victims. They had little or no control over their circumstances.

Like the first time I tanked, someone kept pulling for me. I asked them not to as I was not going to learn otherwise. I left the dungeon after the person tried to pick a fight.
Not everyone uses the word abuse, or toxic as a hashtag buzzword, but as the really what they are describing. You cant, nor shouldn't be cynical over every word use.. as io stated I used it in the proper respects.

tbh i think you have some personal underlying issues you should seek help on, it may do you good.. that way you not trying to word police people, or acting cynical to every person you meet.

I was like you at one point in my life, and trust me it isnt a healthy way to live.

[Yue_Amariyo]

A tank pulling 1 group at the time is not a tank Lol

if you are still learning to tank, then ya... not every player in every dungeon is geared/skilled to handle pulling wall to wall. It is a group effort, it crazy people try it in starter dungeons and new players, like myself end up not knowing wtf to do. wipes happen and ppl blame game each other.

[Enla]

if you are still learning to tank, then ya... not every player in every dungeon is geared/skilled to handle pulling wall to wall. It is a group effort, it crazy people try it in starter dungeons and new players, like myself end up not knowing wtf to do. wipes happen and ppl blame game each other.

This, if it's towards the end of the game I get being a little impatient but if the dungeon is in the 1-40 range I don't think cutting the tank some slack is too much to ask for.

[Awha]

if you are still learning to tank, then ya... not every player in every dungeon is geared/skilled to handle pulling wall to wall. It is a group effort, it crazy people try it in starter dungeons and new players, like myself end up not knowing wtf to do. wipes happen and ppl blame game each other.

May not be the most fun for the healer but if the group has AoE even in the start dungeon as a new healer if you spam heals on the tank they "should" not die. Healer was my first job I leveled when I started and I had a tank that did large pulls right out the bat in the first dungeon, only time they died was when I tried to do some damage during the large pull at those levels. This was also before GLA had a baseline damage AoE skill.

It is possible to get through.