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    Wind-Krysvein's Avatar
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    Drast Vyrkasch
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    Do we really need another thread about this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind-Krysvein View Post
    Do we really need another thread about this?
    About what? From what I recall this is the only thread talking about the use of rescue as it is. Smile it is a good Monday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind-Krysvein View Post
    Do we really need another thread about this?
    No we don't. I guess the horse isn't dead enough yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    No we don't. I guess the horse isn't dead enough yet.
    Maybe the OP is looking for a thread about Rescue that isn't just a bunch of bads complaining about nothing?

    Rescue shines best when it's preplanned imo. I remember in m&f I used to rescue our PLD after the F knockback so he wouldn't miss GCDs running back to the group.

    When it comes to day-to-day use I use it as many do - yanking people into placed heals like Earthly Star and Asylum. I can't help but think this was essentially the intended purpose for the ability, else why give it specifically to healers?

    Saving someone from a failed mechanic almost still needs to be pre-planned because you need to manage to position yourself correctly first then basically know they're going to fail and who you'd like to save. I do this basically each week in e8n - especially if my cohealer is new. It saves people during biting/driving frost mirrors fairly consistently because that seems to be one mech that people just can't read on the fly very well and if you're struck by both reflected attacks it's basically death for a non-tank.

    Oh look, a bunch of easy and common uses for the ability. Shocking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    Maybe the OP is looking for a thread about Rescue that isn't just a bunch of bads complaining about nothing?

    Rescue shines best when it's preplanned imo. I remember in m&f I used to rescue our PLD after the F knockback so he wouldn't miss GCDs running back to the group.

    When it comes to day-to-day use I use it as many do - yanking people into placed heals like Earthly Star and Asylum. I can't help but think this was essentially the intended purpose for the ability, else why give it specifically to healers?

    Saving someone from a failed mechanic almost still needs to be pre-planned because you need to manage to position yourself correctly first then basically know they're going to fail and who you'd like to save. I do this basically each week in e8n - especially if my cohealer is new. It saves people during biting/driving frost mirrors fairly consistently because that seems to be one mech that people just can't read on the fly very well and if you're struck by both reflected attacks it's basically death for a non-tank.

    Oh look, a bunch of easy and common uses for the ability. Shocking.
    Thanks yeah that was my intent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    Maybe the OP is looking for a thread about Rescue that isn't just a bunch of bads complaining about nothing?
    I would rather be 'bad' than to sell myself out to the control of another. That's all I have to say in this thread.
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    Player Veis_Alveare's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quintessa View Post
    I would rather be 'bad' than to sell myself out to the control of another. That's all I have to say in this thread.
    Sir, this is a video game. Chill all the way out. "Control of another" lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quintessa View Post
    I would rather be 'bad' than to sell myself out to the control of another. That's all I have to say in this thread.
    This. Like let's talk about what's actually bad.

    How hard is it to git gud and just place the bubble after the pull has been established? Dungeons are really methodical, this game isn't hard enough to be chaotic. It takes like 2 seconds to wait for the tank to get the pack established and then cast it when you're running these long hallways.

    I guess I can't understand a common and daily use of healers just not being good enough with placing bubbles in the first place and then blaming the tank for not adjusting when it's like an extra two seconds to just do it right to begin with. DPS get this right with their bubbles, it's not that hard.

    If a tank runs out of it and moves all around after the pack is established, sure maybe?? If I have a good dps-ing healer I'm going to do whatever they want whenever they want anyway but those healers are usually the ones that are good enough to preplace the bubble ahead while I'm running, giving me an indication of where they want the pull and I'm totally ok with that.

    If as a tank, I could wait until the end of the 3rd holy to cast my blood price, healers can wait to place the bubble. You don't need rescue, Just do a better job in the first place. It's interesting to me how their bad play is the tanks fault. The tank already has a million things they are fucking up already like not properly mitigating, or not picking up all the mobs right away... how is this their problem too lol.
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    Aside from that, I use it to just pull party members out of mechanics they've failed before. If I see them setting up to get hit with yet another vuln stack, it indicates to me they might not know the mechanics and I can save them from it. It's come in handy with that level 80 explody Amarot dungeon with the boss that casts the almost full arena AOE after the explosion, I've yanked people to the right side of the arena and kept them alive which is nice.

    I genuinely like it as a healer when used properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HadesNight View Post
    This. Like let's talk about what's actually bad.

    How hard is it to git gud and just place the bubble after the pull has been established?
    How hard is it to git gud and walk back into the placed bubble after running out of it to avoid an AOE that was placed? From my personal experience that happens more often then healers putting down the bubble early.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ftail View Post
    How hard is it to git gud and walk back into the placed bubble after running out of it to avoid an AOE that was placed? From my personal experience that happens more often then healers putting down the bubble early.
    Clipping one part of a quote is dumb when there was a whole response in which I addressed tanks moving out of it if it was established. What is it with people internet skimming.

    Your experience isn't everyone's experience here... Yes tanks probably do that, but there are a good majority of healers in my experience that just aren't good.
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