This is completely the wrong mindset to have, the bots shouldn't be there, period. What you've said boils down to 'suck it up, let the bots win, and be happy making a pittance selling things for low margins'.' On Louisoix there are 4 bots competing with one another on Neo-Ish gear, 2 for High Allagan/Dreadwyrm glams, and another 2 for weapon glams. These bots probably absorb 50M a day that the crafting communities could take and re-invest in helping their friends, novices or housing. Whereas the gil that these bots take is getting sold online. The sales of Neo-Ish gear in particular is still healthy on my server and could be extremely profitiable to human players if they could actually take part in it, but we are being forced out of the game, that we pay money to play, by cheaters. I've started messaging the novice netwrok in my server frequently warning them not to buy off the bots and list their names, whenever my items sell I send tells thanking people for not buying from the bots. People keep asking me who the bots are and why SE haven't banned them yet and it seems it's just lack of effort on their part. They must have a log of how frequently retainers check their prices and it wouldn't be hard to see trends of price updates every 10 or so minutes 24/7.