Does Square intend to address Market botting?

[Kes13a]

Why are you even trying to compete in a dead market that's saturated with bots? Neo-Ishgardian is being purchased for 2 reasons at this point: glamour, or the player has hit level 80 but still isn't close to completing the MSQ. EdenVerse, Memoria EX, Allegory tomestones - all that gear is equal or better but doesn't cost anything to get but a little of the player's time, and people have had weeks to accumulate it. They don't need Neo-Ishgardian anymore.

Just because something sells at a high price doesn't make it the most profitable. Frequency of sales has more impact. I can throw up a Neo-Ishgardian or Facet item at 120k on the MB and sell maybe one a week. Or I can make HQ Sunstone Rings to list for 15k each and sell 3 a day. Assuming I gather all my own materials instead of buying them from vendors and other players, that's 120k profit a week versus 315k.

Fight with the bots and everyone else making Neo-Ishgard for that 120k profit if you want. I'll take my easy 315k profit and not have to worry about the bots. That's how my alts end up gillionaires before they finish the 2.0 MSQ. I don't make and sell the more expensive items. I sell the things players need at prices they're willing to pay when no one else is interested in selling at those prices.

Know the market. Sell the things in demand that not enough other sellers are supplying. That's how you make gil.

Things are different on my server, Neo sells very well still, even some of the weapons. I sell a few complete sets a day, its not a once a week kind of market unless you are listing for 750k

I know my market, and how to make gil. we play differently but still get ahead.

my question was about SE and their attitude towards market bots. I wasnt requesting an opinion on if I knew how to market or not.

but thank you for letting us know how things are on your server and your methods. much appreciated ^^

[Yshtola]

Your sound like you are interested in getting a suspension. You need to take a seat and just chill.

[tierney12]

Oh threatening me is really productive.

[Sovex]

At every time of day, even during night, same retainers on every single piece of exarchic armor... undercutting by 1 with no more no less than four items. Every 5 minutes... all of them with Polish names... it's been like this for more than two months now. It's unreal how shit this game is at dealing with bots.

The only thing I can do is crash the prices and hurt their profits while hurting mine as well, and I don't care about profit anymore at this point, I just want to see them suffer.

[Kes13a]

At every time of day, even during night, same retainers on every single piece of exarchic armor... undercutting by 1 with no more no less than four items. Every 5 minutes... all of them with Polish names... it's been like this for more than two months now. It's unreal how shit this game is at dealing with bots.

The only thing I can do is crash the prices and hurt their profits while hurting mine as well, and I don't care about profit anymore at this point, I just want to see them suffer.

I have certainly been there thats for sure. yet these are "just normal players" apparently and zero evidence of botting

according to the lack of action from the SE side of things anyway

all we can do is submit a report to the "Special" (I think short bus hockey helmet kind of special) Task Force and carry on...

[Yshtola]

You can kick and scream all you want my lala, but do know the little personal crusade you have against other players can, without any ambiguous interpretation, fall under two prohibited behaviors.

[Wrestlefire769]

You can kick and scream all you want my lala, but do know the little personal crusade you have against other players can, without any ambiguous interpretation, fall under two prohibited behaviors.

Sounds like someone wants to encourage RMT.

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the bots using the limsa flag too? in crystal they all using it

[Waaltar]

They would choose the flag based on the tax rate. However the tax rate is based on how many players use each and the one with the least has the best low tax rate. If the tax rate is lower, then you pay less for an item listed as the same price somewhere else. But not a lot of people care about it as the tax only pops up in the middle of buying it already and is for most things not much gil. On Cactuar, Limsa was the best a long time ago but now they are all about even.

Anyways I came here today looking for answers as to how someone on Cactuar has huge numbers of retainers and is selling Darksteel Ore, Gold Ore, and Spruce lumber, among other things, at around 300-400gil with 5-10 stacks of 99 and they reload multiple times a week. I figure either they have a ton of retainers and send them out every hour, or they'd have to be botting the nodes. But seriously we are talking 30+ retainers just for those, maybe like 100+ retainers in their empire. They all have names like Cactuar''''''one or Gerberbaby''''''two etc. Can they do that exploiting free accounts?

I mean it just kills gathering because they've moved in on all the reasonably high demand gathering mats that used to reliably have prices around 900-1000 gil each. Things are slow in the markets now which isn't all that surprising, but it's bad enough for crafters and gatherers as it is.