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  1. #241
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    at this point one day iam not suprised yoshi going to delete the rescue skill lol

    and probably that sleep skill too
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  2. #242
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    Vierys Night
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    I Hate Rescue

    I consider myself a decent tank, I ask healers at the start of content if they want small or large pulls and use all my CDs.

    Sometimes in boss battles, I know the hit thats coming up and know how long I can stay on the boss before the aoe hits me.

    It's F-ing casual content. Don't use rescue on me. I completely agree with the people pissed off about it here.

    Healers won't f-ing dps in the game, waste my time by not using their dots and aoe, or keep me at 80+ percent the whole dungeon but you want to yank me across the field?

    I'm a tank! My health doesn't need to always be that high, I'm ok with getting down to 10k health if it means you're DPSing! Overhealing is not necessary. They give you DPS skills for a reason! USE THEM

    Boss positioning is MY job, I'm going to be where I want to be. Do your job and keep us from hitting zero HP and DPS the damn mobs.

    I can see rescue if you're running content with friends or during raid, but in public content with strangers. Nah F You.

    I'm not sorry.

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    Had to edit because I reread it and saw I was ranting. Sorry for the rant. But I hate rescue and I hate healers that don't dps. It makes casual content such a drag when I'm legit using everything in my arsenal to support them as a tank.
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    Last edited by HadesNight; 06-17-2020 at 09:31 PM.

  3. #243
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    But you do realise that healers who don't dps and healers who want bigger pulls are completely different people, right?
    This looks suspiciously like you just wanted to rant about the nasty 0 dps healers you encountered and healers using rescue was a good excuse to start a rant about you getting healed too much for your liking. There is a "Tales from the Duty Finder" thread that's better suited for such rants.
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  4. #244
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    I've probably seen rescue used badly more than well, but I still wouldn't want it removed.
    For example, the most recent time I've had it used on me in a PUG setting, was in Grand Cosmos. I pulled the first pull after the first boss, the one with two bombs.
    I hit my invuln to soak the two self destructs, and got rescued out of the AoE anyway.
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  5. #245
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    But you do realise that healers who don't dps and healers who want bigger pulls are completely different people, right?
    This looks suspiciously like you just wanted to rant about the nasty 0 dps healers you encountered and healers using rescue was a good excuse to start a rant about you getting healed too much for your liking. There is a "Tales from the Duty Finder" thread that's better suited for such rants.
    Dude this is the internet, don't attribute shit just to complain about a rant. I ranted and acknowledged it in an edit for knowing I went off topic.

    Also your assumption that healers that don't dps, don't have it in their minds that double pulling makes the dungeon go faster and thus, thinks what a tank should do is inaccurate.

    I'm on Aether, we get healers all the time that when I ask "small pulls or large" prefer large because they are healbots. In their minds they are like "well the tank won't die since all I'll do is heal" and it makes the dungeon take forever.

    It's ok to be like "hey you're ranting" but get off your high horse, you're not a forum mod. Respond to my topic and address the points I'm making or don't respond at all.

    For the decent enough tanks out there, rescuing is trash AND healers that don't dps are also annoying.
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  6. #246
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    I think that's a necessary post(HadesNight) to have in this thread none the less. 0 DPS healers are just as bad as the back seat driver healers that use rescue.

    I gotta say though you sound very angry and bitter, clearly you're tired of the crap that goes on there. I hope you have better days playing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    I've probably seen rescue used badly more than well, but I still wouldn't want it removed.
    For example, the most recent time I've had it used on me in a PUG setting, was in Grand Cosmos. I pulled the first pull after the first boss, the one with two bombs.
    I hit my invuln to soak the two self destructs, and got rescued out of the AoE anyway.
    While it's unfortunate your invulnerability was wasted, I believe that was done with good intentions - they didn't know you were gonna do that, or wasn't paying attention.
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    Last edited by Quintessa; 06-17-2020 at 09:55 PM.

  7. #247
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    Rescuing a tank to force their character forward is very passive aggressive. Use your words.

    On the other hand, tanks who get outrun by their healers need to reflect on why that happens. You both have the same movement speed and Sprint.
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  8. #248
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quintessa View Post
    I think that's a necessary post(HadesNight) to have in this thread none the less. 0 DPS healers are just as bad as the back seat driver healers that use rescue.



    While it's unfortunate your invulnerability was wasted, I believe that was done with good intentions - they didn't know you were gonna do that, or wasn't paying attention.
    Of course, but it's literally the only time anyone's rescued me out of an AoE like that in a big pull, and one of the few times I invulned it XD
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  9. #249
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Rescuing a tank to force their character forward is very passive aggressive. Use your words.

    On the other hand, tanks who get outrun by their healers need to reflect on why that happens. You both have the same movement speed and Sprint.
    I often stop to get two AoE attacks out before carrying on to the next group. Otherwise there's a risk of the DPS ripping aggro back off me in transit.
    That 1 GCD stop is enough to let the healer gain a lot of ground.
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  10. #250
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Rescuing a tank to force their character forward is very passive aggressive. Use your words.

    On the other hand, tanks who get outrun by their healers need to reflect on why that happens. You both have the same movement speed and Sprint.
    I do think it's a partnership. Like as a tank main, I rely heavily on healers and respect that they have to keep us all alive. So at the start of every public run (not with friends or FC mates) I ask for their pull preferences and just go for it. Even if we die, it doesn't matter because I'm happy to scale back.

    Rescuing to pull more, or position me during a boss fight feels exactly like that "passive aggression". It's really frustrating. I could see if I got hit with mechanics once and the healer had to heal quickly to keep me alive, but in expert, leveling or daily roulettes? That content is almost braindead, after your first few times, dying isn't really a thing if you're like just bare minimum decent.

    I don't see the place rescue has in casual content. I can see it for savage or ultimate raid strategy if needed, or a clutch moment against week one new content and the healer just saved a run with it. But it's mostly being used to troll people or control their style of gameplay and that's been my experience on Aether for when it's happened.

    I have immediately said "don't use rescue" and moved on with the runs with little to no opposition but I just don't understand why someone would get it in their mind that it's their place.

    What if the tank is new? Tankxiety was real, allow people to go at their own pace, be considerate or speak up first. I consider it griefing in those cases. I wish they would get rid of it.

    As for the OP, as mad as it would make me. Killing the healer wouldn't really do me much good lol. Better to ask them not to use it, and if they persist just leave the content and report them.
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