Healers who rescue pull tanks into mobs.

[RajNish]

Faced this behavior once, while the DPS of the group was extremely low. I shrugged, took a super-big pull, done my job and completed duty. I don't want to talk with such people, because they want a comfortable game only for themselves, which means that the pattern will not change.

I love big pulls as a healer and as a tank, but if for some reason tank decided to go slower or the healer asks me not to rush, okay. In the pixel world, among groups of monotonous mobs, the extra 2-3 minutes not a problem.

As for the skill, it can be very useful, and I am grateful to the people who use it quickly and accurately to save someone. Just today in the dungeon, I used it to move DPS to me so that we would not have an add from a broken container. I don’t think this guy was happy, but we had much less problems.

In general, all depends on the situation and people, not from skill. Healer just can say: "feel free to take more" and problem solved.

P. S. In the game that I played before, there was a similar ability, with the only difference being that this skill removed aggro from the party member. And if you "saved" the tank in this way, it could end in disaster. Thank god it works differently in FF XIV.

[gumas]

Faced this behavior once, while the DPS of the group was extremely low. I shrugged, took a super-big pull, done my job and completed duty. I don't want to talk with such people, because they want a comfortable game only for themselves, which means that the pattern will not change

i do hope at least you ask/tell them firsthand that you want to go faster right?

if you just do that stunt without telling, that just come out you are the rude one here, they want comfortable so what? its their playstyle, you have your own.

[ErryK]

Just use Shirk on the offending healer.

Isn't that griefing? Likewise with letting the healer die just because you have some personal vendetta against healers attempting to encourage tanks to do large pulls?

[RajNish]

i do hope at least you ask/tell them firsthand that you want to go faster right?

if you just do that stunt without telling, that just come out you are the rude one here, they want comfortable so what? its their playstyle, you have your own.

I'm saying about the case when the healer simply pulled me into a bunch of mobs using Rescue and aggroing everything around. I just took these mobs and did my job. End of story. Or you wanted to know, did I asked the healer how comfortable he was by pulling me in that group of mobs? As I said, as a healer I say "feel free to take more". As a tank, I focus on the capabilities of the healer and the group. If the healer is the first time in a dungeon (players usually talk about it), I ask, ok big pulls for them or not. It’s not a problem to spend a few seconds on this simple question.

[NanaWiloh]

As an experienced Healer and a tank in the learning process I don't mind big pulls. I am not a fan of people pulling for me when I am tanking, but if they do they better be willing to accept any and all blame for whatever problems arise. Over month back a pre-puller in a Lab running I was doing found out the hardway that pre-pulling is not always welcomed. They were getting ahead of the raid and pre-pulling before most people were present. There Pre-pull antic's eventually led to choatic pull that wiped the raid on the bomb, during the run back to the bomb several in the raid expressed their displeasure. Including said pre-pullers group who promptly removed the pre-puller to the happiness of quite a few people in the raid. This is just some food for thought, if you are going to pre-pull make sure everyone is present and know your parties limits..

[gumas]

I'm saying about the case when the healer simply pulled me into a bunch of mobs using Rescue and aggroing everything around. I just took these mobs and did my job. End of story. Or you wanted to know, did I asked the healer how comfortable he was by pulling me in that group of mobs?

sorry, from your wording i though you are the one who do the pull

[RajNish]

sorry, from your wording i though you are the one who do the pull

No, I was just talking about the "Healers who rescue pull tanks into mobs". I do not like this behavior, but if it happened, I will try to quickly finish duty and do other more enjoyable things. In the dungeon "Doma Castle" there are two places where the tanks firsttimers are often standing under the gun fire. Twice I had to use Rescue to move behind the guns and save them, cause fight was very intence. But usually I just jumping and writing "come here".

[Quintessa]

i do hope at least you ask/tell them firsthand that you want to go faster right?

if you just do that stunt without telling, that just come out you are the rude one here, they want comfortable so what? its their playstyle, you have your own.

I'm getting confused now looool. Why don't we just actually ask each other in chat at thw start of the dungeon so we can know what we want.

"I want blood bath-esque pulls."

"Baby pulls please , one damn mob at a time."
..."but they link, can't have one at a time."
"You heard what I said."

"I like pulling so big that my game lags like hell."
"I can't handle that, double pulls please."

DPS: "I don't give a hippy skippy what yall want, it's about why I want. * Pulls everything*"

*Gate drops*
"Pelaton please"
"o_o ok"
*Pops sprint, pulls all things straight to boss, other 3 left behind and didn't make it before getting locked out".


Edit: LOL, I misunderstood the post that misunderstood a post.

Only one way out of this! Blame it on the ascians!

[Joven]

Isn't that griefing? Likewise with letting the healer die just because you have some personal vendetta against healers attempting to encourage tanks to do large pulls?

Wouldn't using Rescue when it's not needed be considered griefing as well? It all comes down to communication. If the healer wants bigger pulls all they have to do is say something, not arbitarily decide for themselves without consulting the tank.

[MichiPichi]

Using rescue to get the tank to pull more seems to be an issue mainly on Crystal.

I decided to level an alt on Crystal to see if the memes/rumors were true about how bad people are there and yeah it's true. I've played on Primal, Light and Aether and Crystal is the only datacenter where 90% of the tanks single pull, even if the rest of the party wants to go faster(and yes even at end game). It's awful and makes these awfully boring dungeons take even longer and is where I first thought to use rescue to drag the tank into mobs.

I don't think rescue needs to be changed based off the datacenter with the "unofficial" lowest skill playerbase.

On the other hand though, I've tanked there and have watched as the healer does nothing and then I die to one pack of mobs, so I can understand a tank single pulling..... that RP data center is just....something else.