Add company workshops to Grand Company hubs so that ALL FCs can access this content!

[TheHyperFusion]

I will show my support for this happily. I have a small FC estate, but before I did, I felt like it was lacking since I was unable to do things for a workshop.

I'd probably say make the requirements as such:
- The Free Company must be at least Trusted in their primary Grand Company
- The Free Company must be at least rank 6 - the same as being able to purchase an estate
- Workshop access costs 800,000 gil and 80,000 credits

[8bitbort]

Another +1 to this idea; I've said it for a while.
Then if they could let apartments use the 2x2 garden plots I'd have way less to complain about lol.

[Packetdancer]

Another +1 to this idea; I've said it for a while.
Then if they could let apartments use the 2x2 garden plots I'd have way less to complain about lol.

Honestly, apartments should have an instanced 'rooftop garden' or something similar, with a limited number of outdoor furnishing slots. Then you can still do yard stuff; that could include putting down a single garden plot, just like with a small house, but you could also put down trees/plants, make a little zen garden, whatever. But that is a discussion for another thread, as it's not directly related to the FC workshops.

Now, I like the wards/neighborhoods. When I managed to snag a house (largely through sheer blind/dumb luck), several of my neighbors actually spotted a new house go up and came over to visit while I was first laying things out in the yard. A couple of them brought housewarming gifts, and I've actually run roulettes with one neighbor. I know that's not everyone's experience, but there's something to be said for your house having an actual presence in the greater world. So as broken as the housing system is, I'm (admittedly selfishly) glad that it isn't instanced houses off in their own little bubbles or I would never have met those neighbors.

But I think that with housing supposedly an entirely optional system, gating other systems on home ownership is not really great given the scarcity. People who haven't had the chance to grab a house shouldn't be shut out of gardening. (Ironically, I use my FC's garden plots for gardening, because I gave a friend access to my house and effective 'ownership' of the gardening plot there, since they don't have a house of their own.) FCs who haven't had the chance to grab a house shouldn't be shut out of workshops.

I get that they wanted to make housing attractive, but right now the system is broken; people need options to use gardens, and FCs need options to use the workshop. Giving access to a workshop off of whichever Grand Company the FC is affiliated with would be an excellent workaround, and probably require fairly little effort (since the workshops themselves are already instanced).

[Arillyn]

Agree with this! Let all FCs have access to workshops through the GC.

[Izariael]

Honestly though I think FFXIV missed an opportunity when they gave us free company housing. What we should have is a free company airship instead of a free company house. They are up in their air so they don't need neighborhoods, that means instancing would be fine. In the singleplayer games getting to the point you can use an airship as your mobile base is always a big and exiting thing. FFXIV should have that for FCs.

I really like this idea, because the intense competition between FCs and individual players for the housing plots is one of the underlying problems with the system. From what I can recall, SE originally intended for all of the traditional housing plots to be for FCs only, with separate housing areas for personal housing. They then scrapped the personal housing and decided to let players buy up the same plots that were originally reserved for FCs, and the housing market has been pretty busted since. (Again, from what I recall... I could be wrong there ) Anyways, going along with the FC airship idea, FCs still get their decorated hangout spaces, but all of the plots currently occupied by FCs can be freed up for personal housing. Every FC has a chance at housing, and more players can finally get personal housing, so it seems like there's winners all around!

That said, I know a lot of FCs use their housing for hosting events, so being able to visit another FCs airship could be a tough challenge to implement with this approach. The easiest solution there would be to just host FC events at a designated players' personal housing in the same way that the events are hosted now, but I'm sure there's bound to be somebody displeased by it.

May even bring back hamlet defense, but as a FC content lol.

It's been 84 years since I've heard the words "hamlet defense", but I'm kind of loving the idea of having it back as FC content. You gave me a hit of nostalgia for both Dark Cloud and FFXIV 1.0 in the same post. Confound it! Thanks for sharing links to the other threads, there's some great ideas there (now if only we could get SE to take notice sooner...)

I get that they wanted to make housing attractive, but right now the system is broken; people need options to use gardens, and FCs need options to use the workshop. Giving access to a workshop off of whichever Grand Company the FC is affiliated with would be an excellent workaround, and probably require fairly little effort (since the workshops themselves are already instanced).

Exactly! I didn't talk about gardening in my initial post, but that too has been a huge peeve to miss out on! It would be amazing if there were options to do gardening and workshop activities without having to dissolve my FC to join into another one that already has housing. Housing already has an allure of its own just through its base functions, but locking more content behind it compounds the demand when housing is already in short supply.

[Eldevern]

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You recall properly. Initially, they made FCs only housing but since a lot a free slots were remaining and people wanted houses, they decreased the price and opened it to individuals.

[HadesNight]

Totally agreed with this thread concept. It's a no brainer. There is no reason FCs upon creation can't have access to a centralized workshop.

If there is an issue with like the game code where it has to be tied to a house, change that coding or create a secondary workshop of sorts that keeps unlocked recipe progress.

For people paying the same amount of money with their subs, they shouldn't be restricted by not owning a physical house.

Workshops and Gardens and use of Aetherwheels should be accessible to all FCs by default. Please change this. You'll see that it also helps alleviate some of the grief people have over not owning homes as well. Gardens should be available via apartments or hopefully future instanced housing.

Please address this SE. This is something that could really help the community.

[Packetdancer]

Honestly, I like the idea of FCs being able to have airships in place of houses (just, y'know, throw in a greenhouse aboard so they have space for gardening). Aside from anything else, it'd also be cool to be able to pilot it to different 'places'. All it would change is what view you saw out the windows/off the upper deck (depending on design), but that'd still be neat. Do you want to park over the Black Shroud and see Gridania and a forest below? Park over Ul'dah and see the Belah'dian ruins far below? Park off the coast of Kugane and see the lights of the city at night in the distance? You could even park it places that don't have housing; imagine parking your airship over the Yfaem Saltmoor, with the ruins of Mhach below, or over the clouds you can see from the cliffs near Ala Mhigo.

And let the airship be parked at places with an actual airship dock, so that people not in the FC can come aboard for events. Want to run a party on the airship, but have folks who aren't FC members (and so can't just aetheryte there) or friends of FC members (thus able to use Estate Teleportation) attend? Go dock in Gridania, and then folks can go to the airship docks and pick a 'Board docked Company Airship' option to go on board anything docked there.

That'd free up housing for individuals, while making the FC housing instanced. Because I think you can make a solid argument that while housing is 'optional' (save for, y'know, gardening) for individuals, it really isn't for FCs.

[Simply_Spider]

I personally would like to Garden and use a Fc Workshop or Personal Workshop. It feels bad having to dump loads(or sell) mats that I cannot interact with. Because I need housing or an FC, in order to do certain content; that exist. It just doesn't make sense, that I have to have an exclusive thing that has been around for many a moon. And has been scarce, far before I picced up the game. Yet, however I can get all these things that is used specifically for that content, that I am locced out of. That game is full of instanced content and group storage and etc. Feels bad doing all this work and inventory calculus, just for it not to matter. Example, make apartments able to do limited gardening, at least you can access that content(though limited), Workshops and etc. Remove the game created restrictions that, you cannot control. Time, money, skill, these things I can control. I cannot make a house appear, or start a FC, if 3 others do not want to get in it. Just my simple thoughts & opinion. Thanks for ya'll posts. And reading mine's.

[Violyre]

While I don’t disagree with this idea…I don’t understand the need.

Almost all of the crafting stuff in the FC crafting is used…for house stuff.

While you might be able to make some gil from airships/subs, that’s about the only use you’d get out of it. And now that anyone can get it, those prices are going down