Which jobs is at its prime?

[Yani-Madara]

To me Sam feels like the most complete job right now.

Plus Sam and DRG are the ones with the least amount of complaints.
Another well done class is BLM though I don't like it much. Wish Fire 4 had a fire starter type of thing or have the basic ice and fire 1 be instant like in PvP but this is more of a personal preference.

I'm surprised to see Nin as there are multiple topics about some people hating the changes and almost everyone hating Shadowfang getting turned into Gunbreaker's dot.

I also find it odd that people with bad connections aren't complaining yet about not being able to cram everything in the new TA burst.

I'm gonna list some complaints I've heard and noticed since I almost have all dps to 80.

Bard- lack of utility, Apex arrow should be 50/100 and ogcd. Why the hell doesn't Bard buff himself, he is the last dps class on the logs so it's not like it would break the meta. Aoe is way too simple.

Monk- it's a mess. Tornado kick has been delegated to useless and the level 80 ability is a joke. It would be better if TK worked like BLM's xenoglossy instead of dumping stacks and Perfect Balance could be used for something other than spamming Leaden Fists.

MCH- heat charge burst window is hell with a bad connection. Removing time limit and adding stacks of 5 Heat Charges would help a lot.

SMN- some pet actions won't register to the point you have to read a guide to see what won't break the game. I still like the class. Personally I wish Bahamut learned actions like Phoenix.

DNC- why is sable dance not ogcd? It's the class I hate the most because it feels incomplete and too easy. Though I understand some people like that and it's fine. I was so bored while leveling it that I would do ogcd jumps while waiting to use the feathers for burst.

RDM- works well but way too easy. Aoe rotation is too simple. This is my last dps to 80 (currently at 74) since it bores me too much.

Again, some people love it so it's a good thing to have classes with diversity. My issue is ShB bringing down the casual hammer on multiple classes.

[EONX_]

DRG has been a bit simplified but it might have been required due to the very tight rotation from HW/SB? (Please confirm!)

I can't speak for HW but SB DRG was extremely similar to SHB DRG, except for a few very small things (all the changes were basically QoL... which in turn were buffs). SB DRG couldn't maintain Blood of the Dragon basically forever like it can now (upon activating Blood of the Dragon, it'd set the gauge to 20/30s instead of 30/30s like it is now), and entering Life of the Dragon would also be dependent on the time left in the gauge (again, not automatically going to 30/30s like it is in SHB). Combo rotation was basically the same, just with one extra button (Heavy Thrust), jumps were slightly more complicated since you needed three eyes to get into LoTD and Spineshatter gave you an eye... and there was also Piercing Debuff (goodbye, don't miss that garbage).

DRG was simplified from SB to SHB but not in a very major way, with almost all of the changes being entirely QoL. Overall I'm very pleased with the changes

[SpeckledBurd]

MNK needs a rework to be viable in the next expac, this is certain, I think that despite being one of the "easiest" melee, the job has too many issues that needs to be resolved, peoples aren't happy and you can see it very well on this forum, where at least 50% of the posts here are either directly about monk or full of peoples saying that others problems aren't as important as a "monk rework. right. now."

You can't really blame Monks for being insistent about getting prioritized for fixes immediately at this point though. It's been five years of Monks being vocal about both major problems with it's functionality and to disliking the development direction, but those complaints have pretty much always been ignored. Even when the devs said they were taking feedback in Stormblood what they turned around and released was more indicative of them refusing to take feedback than anything else.

[Miminming]

To me Sam feels like the most complete job right now.

Plus Sam and DRG are the ones with the least amount of complaints.
Another well done class is BLM though I don't like it much. Wish Fire 4 had a fire starter type of thing or have the basic ice and fire 1 be instant like in PvP but this is more of a personal preference.

I'm surprised to see Nin as there are multiple topics about some people hating the changes and almost everyone hating Shadowfang getting turned into Gunbreaker's dot.

I also find it odd that people with bad connections aren't complaining yet about not being able to cram everything in the new TA burst.

I'm gonna list some complaints I've heard and noticed since I almost have all dps to 80.

Bard- lack of utility, Apex arrow should be 50/100 and ogcd. Why the hell doesn't Bard buff himself, he is the last dps class on the logs so it's not like it would break the meta. Aoe is way too simple.

Monk- it's a mess. Tornado kick has been delegated to useless and the level 80 ability is a joke. It would be better if TK worked like BLM's xenoglossy instead of dumping stacks and Perfect Balance could be used for something other than spamming Leaden Fists.

MCH- heat charge burst window is hell with a bad connection. Removing time limit and adding stacks of 5 Heat Charges would help a lot.

SMN- some pet actions won't register to the point you have to read a guide to see what won't break the game. I still like the class. Personally I wish Bahamut learned actions like Phoenix.

DNC- why is sable dance not ogcd? It's the class I hate the most because it feels incomplete and too easy. Though I understand some people like that and it's fine. I was so bored while leveling it that I would do ogcd jumps while waiting to use the feathers for burst.

RDM- works well but way too easy. Aoe rotation is too simple. This is my last dps to 80 (currently at 74) since it bores me too much.

Again, some people love it so it's a good thing to have classes with diversity. My issue is ShB bringing down the casual hammer on multiple classes.

IMO too easy is not a flaw, the job still played fluid and loved by cassual...

[Jirah]

IMO too easy is not a flaw, the job still played fluid and loved by cassual...

That’s your opinion, but too easy is standing on the the line of disengaging and boring. complex and difficulty aren’t equal they compliment each other most jobs he listed that run the “casual friendly” flag are striaght up boring

[Mhaeric]

most jobs he listed that run the “casual friendly” flag are striaght up boring

That’s your opinion

/10charshere

[Stepjam]

I think BLM is in pretty much the perfect spot right now. It's rotation is pretty well set, and it now has enough instant casts that it isn't quite the turret is used to be while still benefitting from staying in place for periods of time.

I do wonder where itll go for 6.0 though

[SpeckledBurd]

I think BLM is in pretty much the perfect spot right now. It's rotation is pretty well set, and it now has enough instant casts that it isn't quite the turret is used to be while still benefitting from staying in place for periods of time.

I do wonder where itll go for 6.0 though

The only thing Black Mage really needs is a Fire AOE equivalent to Freeze to switch to Astral Fire, but that's the sort of thing they'd make as a change to Black Mage's existing kit (probably a trait for Fire 2 or something) rather than being a level 80-90 skill.

[VictorTheed]

PLD feels pretty complete to me, I probably enjoyed it more then any other job in SHB, but Monk needs a rework like MCH got.

[Eliadil]

The only thing Black Mage really needs is a Fire AOE equivalent to Freeze to switch to Astral Fire, but that's the sort of thing they'd make as a change to Black Mage's existing kit (probably a trait for Fire 2 or something) rather than being a level 80-90 skill.

Well technically, you have Flare. The lvl 72 trait gives you a really good aoe rotation that's Freeze followed by two Flare, and you repeat the process indefinitely, using also aoe thunder and foul between everything. This aoe rotation works well, the second flare hits for around 30k-40k, and the thunder proc/foul makes it a really decent burst. It's kinda too bad that it's given so late but it's definitely a good aoe rotation.