Healers who rescue pull tanks into mobs.

[Fynlar]

I'd still suggest taking the advice of either picking up a healer or finding a teammate who plays healer, so then maybe those made up statistics in your head will slightly be better.

Hi, I've played healer. Rescue still sucks.

The delays involved with its use usually mean it either won't pull someone to safety in time anyway (which usually just means you've screwed up their DPS) or, particularly if you use it while you're moving, it will not pull them to the location you think that it will, which can even result in situations where someone would have been safe anyway and you ended up inadvertently pulling them into an aoe.

About the only time I ever use it is immediately after someone's performed a LB3, because they have a tendency to take a big hit or die if I don't.

Honestly I never even considered this... Does Arms Length really negate rescue?

Swiftcast does, so I assume Arm's Length does too.

It's obviously still kind of ridiculous for someone to seriously suggest it as a means to try to guess when your healer will try to Rescue you and block it with that, though.

[Gemina]

Anyway, I vote for removal of the skill as seem to only waste space, give the healers other button to not get bored instead maybe

Are you kidding? Rescue in one of the few skills that breaks the boredom mold for healers. Looking out to see who is about to eat dirt while I'm spamming Glare actually gives me something else to do.

Hi, I've played healer. Rescue still sucks.

The delays involved with its use usually mean it either won't pull someone to safety in time anyway (which usually just means you've screwed up their DPS) or, particularly if you use it while you're moving, it will not pull them to the location you think that it will, which can even result in situations where someone would have been safe anyway and you ended up inadvertently pulling them into an aoe.

About the only time I ever use it is immediately after someone's performed a LB3, because they have a tendency to take a big hit or die if I don't.

A couple of things. While there is definitely a delay, the biggest portion of it is the hesitation to use it. Several jobs have the means to quickly hop/dash out of AoE danger, and it can be difficult to anticipate what a player is going to do. Playing other jobs and learning what their abilities do and how they interact goes a really long way to making effective use out of Rescue attempts. It's also important to understand that Rescue places a thumbtack on your current location, and that is where the player is going to be pulled to. I have no idea where you are getting any other impression with Rescue when using it on the move.

Last, Rescue should never be used to pull a player out of an AoE they will survive. That is a complete waste of the skill. The best case scenario here is you trade one CD for another. Should the attempt be successful, you don't have the heal the player. If you leave them where they are at, you use an ogcd heal on them instead. The issue with breaking their DPS is completely irrelevant if the AoE kills the player. If you're late; you're late. At least you tried. But that player was dead anyway. By attempting to save a player from death, you save Swiftcast and a ton of MP. And if SC is down, you save the MP and a ton of GCDs.

Perhaps in the future they will update the delay on the skill. Until then, effective use requires knowledge and lots of trial and error. Healers don't gain either letting it collect dust on their toolbars. If you've ever been on heals and told yourself, "Damn, I could have used Rescue right there." then that is all you need to know that you can make use of this skill

[Fynlar]

And you completely missed the context of that message

Uhh, no I didn't? I think you completely missed it, though

The person I was responding to was saying "try being a healer yourself, then you can see that Rescue isn't as bad as you're proclaiming it to be"

I was here to say, yes, it still is.

[Gemina]

Uhh, no I didn't? I think you completely missed it, though

The person I was responding to was saying "try being a healer yourself, then you can see that Rescue isn't as bad as you're proclaiming it to be"

I was here to say, yes, it still is.

If you're referring to me and my OP, then you are definitely missing points from more posters than just one. I never even said that. What I said is that unless you play a healer, it is difficult to get the full perspective of how Rescue is and can be used. This can be said for any job though and the abilities they use, so there really is no disputing this.

In your case, considering that you have healer mains all over this thread stating how the ability has been useful to them, added to the fact that you've leveled all three healers to max and have found next to no use for the skill says more about you than the ability itself.

[Fynlar]

If you're referring to me and my OP, then you are definitely missing points from more posters than just one. I never even said that. What I said is that unless you play a healer, it is difficult to get the full perspective of how Rescue is and can be used. This can be said for any job though and the abilities they use, so there really is no disputing this.

In your case, considering that you have healer mains all over this thread stating how the ability has been useful to them, added to the fact that you've leveled all three healers to max and have found next to no use for the skill says more about you than the ability itself.

I was not, I was referring to post #8.

I also never said Rescue has no use. I did say it is a bad ability. There's so much jankiness involved with its use that it ends up not being useful (or outright detrimental) in a lot of situations where it could otherwise have been useful, to the point where a lot of people just use it to troll. Case in point, this thread.

I also just don't agree with the idea of another player getting to dictate the movement/control of another player in general.