Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Coletergeist]

Honestly, just reach out to your FC? I found others in mine who are interested in doing a serious PotD deep dive, but some hadn't even reached floor 50 yet, so we've been doing some group runs of 1-50 to try to help build up everyone's gear before venturing onwards. If no one in your FC is interested, you could probably even throw up a party finder.

I'm a newish player. My FC only has like 14 people, with like only myself or myself and another logged in that doesn't even socialize (which is fine).

Once again, there's these assumptions. Tis a hard life for me in the world of Eorzea, and I'msure there's are hundreds more like me in my same situation, you see?. I'm getting there, but I'd like to get there without people telling me to do things in a manner that makes it harder...somehow.

[AduroT]

In the actual Hall there are great advice NPCs, that's fair. I know of a lot of people who never talk to NPCs who don't have quest markers above their heads, so even if they go to the actual Hall wouldn't speak to the advice NPC. (Mind you, they're missing out; there's a lot of great incidental dialogue if you talk to characters in a quest chain who don't have the actual quest marker over their head.)

Admittedly, I haven't done the actual ARR MSQ since 2.x, and the Hall of the Novice was added well after that, so I'm not 100% certain if the main scenario guides you into the Hall itself; as a recent joiner, you'd know that part better than me. I definitely know sprouts who joined the game for the first time in the past 8 months who were unaware of the advice NPCs, though, and who did their trials from the Smith in the inns in Gridania or Ul'dah or Limsa, so I feel like it's still possible to overlook the actual Hall and the advice NPCs gathered there.

Either way, you're right that they do make some of that advice available, I may have not been wholly fair in my statement there. But I still feel they don't really surface it in an obvious manner to someone who may be overwhelmed (or trying to rush through ARR).

Anyway, I do agree that the game has to stop holding people's hand at some point. But I also think that we as a community need to recognize that not everything is going to be explained by the game and we should be patient with folks who aren't familiar with a stack marker and are seeing it for the first time in Heavensward content or whatever, and that it's very easy for folks in ARR content for the first time to still be confused and uncertain how to run their role right.

It does seem like you're a player who's very thorough in investigating things and trying to find the information for yourself, which is awesome! I strongly suspect you're a benefit to your party, and hey, if we ever end up in the same roulette, I look forward to playing with you.

There’s an actual Hall somewhere? I don’t Think the MSQ directed me to that back in the day? I’ve always just talked to the Smiths in the inns.

[GeminiReed]

There’s an actual Hall somewhere? I don’t Think the MSQ directed me to that back in the day? I’ve always just talked to the Smiths in the inns.

It's that building Between Aleport and Sasstasia.

[SturmChurro]

Either way, seems like someone is wasting someone else's time. *shrug*

I also have no friends.
It's rude for those yo assume that joining a matched party should be solely for just exp runs.

It's pretty safe to assume the majority of people queuing for floor 51 are doing it specifically for EXP.

I have no friends either. The guild I am in has less people than yours, and I do not play with them. I play this game solo.

I'm a newish player. My FC only has like 14 people, with like only myself or myself and another logged in that doesn't even socialize (which is fine).

Once again, there's these assumptions. Tis a hard life for me in the world of Eorzea, and I'msure there's are hundreds more like me in my same situation, you see?. I'm getting there, but I'd like to get there without people telling me to do things in a manner that makes it harder...somehow.

Don't worry. If you were to encounter me in PoTD and you started going for chests I wouldn't say anything in chat. I'd just tab out at the exit.

[Katie_Kitty]

On today's story, I yet again have a DNC seemingly throwing a fit(??) about not getting to partner the dps they wanted to.

Eden: Furor for my roulette, I partner NIN soon as we load in, pre-Dance since some people are watching the cutscene. Gate goes down, and the other DNC partners NIN too despite having loaded in with enough time to see I'd already partnered them. I assume it was a misfire at first, but by the time their partner should have been off CD to readjust, they kept it on the NIN. I speak up like "you really should partner the RDM, our buffs won't stack on the NIN" (and eat a lightning rod because I was typing, good job me). They keep it on the NIN for a while longer, then take it off.

Good, now the RDM will have a buff too! .... Or so I thought.

This DNC just doesn't put their partner back on anyone. Not the RDM, not the tanks, literally no one. Considering this is Furor, I assume they're aware of the fact they're hard gimping themselves without a partner buff going... so just. Why? Why would you gimp yourself instead of give buff to the RDM??

I'll never understand what goes through some peoples' minds in DF, honestly.

That kinda reminds me of my E7N run through raid roulette the other day where we had two RDMs and two DNCs, and both DNCs immediately partnered me as soon as the wall dropped. Honestly the main issue with double partner (I could be wrong) is devilment because I believe standard step will stack. The DNCs would need to stagger their devilments in order not to overlap. I do think the step buffs would stack but I could be wrong.

Anyway, some people are ignorant. The other DNC should have just partnered the RDM.

[Katie_Kitty]

but back then - when aggro management actually still was a thing - it was indeed possible for a good DPS to rip aggro from the tank's hands.

Nit-picking, but that's actually an indicator of a crappy DPS in my opinion because all they had to do was use diversion and suddenly they had no aggro problems at all unless the tank was messing up. Even poor DPS players could rip hate off a tank if they weren't using diversion, you didn't need to be doing good DPS to rip hate. So yeah it was the bad DPS, not the good ones, who were ripping hate because they were not using their aggro management tools.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

That kinda reminds me of my E7N run through raid roulette the other day where we had two RDMs and two DNCs, and both DNCs immediately partnered me as soon as the wall dropped. Honestly the main issue with double partner (I could be wrong) is devilment because I believe standard step will stack. The DNCs would need to stagger their devilments in order not to overlap. I do think the step buffs would stack but I could be wrong.

Anyway, some people are ignorant. The other DNC should have just partnered the RDM.

I think the only time it stacks is if you double DNC (two DNCs partnering each other), though regardless, the primary issue is Devilment for sure. Considering it's supposed to be popped early in the standard rotation, can be irritating having to stagger it just so it isn't overwritten and thus we don't have extra time to buff the dps further.

Also on today's continued adventures in DF: Apparently I'm racist for asking people to actually learn how to do their jobs as OT in Alliance Roulette? Okay.jpeg

[Snowthefirst]

So, there is a realization that I have had a long time coming, but only recently fully acknowledged to myself: I am bad at high end Final Fantasy duties.

This isn't me fishing for pity, but me accepting this fact and getting these thoughts out here. What really caused this realization was me playing Eden. I didn't have the reflexes to keep up with the new mechanics, and I died a lot. One of the people in the party told the healer "Do not raise them, it's not worth the trouble".

And you know what? It's true. I don't want to be a dead weight to other people. But I do not have the skill right now to do the Eden raids. But this doesn't mean I'm going to stop playing FFXIV. I am still going to level other jobs, like WHM and DRK. So I'd still like to help people whenever possible!

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Nit-picking, but that's actually an indicator of a crappy DPS in my opinion because all they had to do was use diversion and suddenly they had no aggro problems at all unless the tank was messing up. Even poor DPS players could rip hate off a tank if they weren't using diversion, you didn't need to be doing good DPS to rip hate. So yeah it was the bad DPS, not the good ones, who were ripping hate because they were not using their aggro management tools.

Yeah, but, forcing the dps to do the tanks job for enmity management is bad design.

[Lium]

PSA for tanks. Earthly Star is an AoE heal and damage.

Every time I put it down, tanks immediately move everyone away from it.