Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Ammokkx]

Lancer in The Stone Vigil, I'm done.

Level 44 gladiator in Cutter's Cry who doesn't turn on tank stance and took 10 minutes to find the first portal.

[Packetdancer]

I suggest you do hall of novice yourself and turn on Npc announcements, and turn off battle numbers to read the dialog. As well as talk to each npc in the Actual building.

In the actual Hall there are great advice NPCs, that's fair. I know of a lot of people who never talk to NPCs who don't have quest markers above their heads, so even if they go to the actual Hall wouldn't speak to the advice NPC. (Mind you, they're missing out; there's a lot of great incidental dialogue if you talk to characters in a quest chain who don't have the actual quest marker over their head.)

Admittedly, I haven't done the actual ARR MSQ since 2.x, and the Hall of the Novice was added well after that, so I'm not 100% certain if the main scenario guides you into the Hall itself; as a recent joiner, you'd know that part better than me. I definitely know sprouts who joined the game for the first time in the past 8 months who were unaware of the advice NPCs, though, and who did their trials from the Smith in the inns in Gridania or Ul'dah or Limsa, so I feel like it's still possible to overlook the actual Hall and the advice NPCs gathered there.

Either way, you're right that they do make some of that advice available, I may have not been wholly fair in my statement there. But I still feel they don't really surface it in an obvious manner to someone who may be overwhelmed (or trying to rush through ARR).

Anyway, I do agree that the game has to stop holding people's hand at some point. But I also think that we as a community need to recognize that not everything is going to be explained by the game and we should be patient with folks who aren't familiar with a stack marker and are seeing it for the first time in Heavensward content or whatever, and that it's very easy for folks in ARR content for the first time to still be confused and uncertain how to run their role right.

It does seem like you're a player who's very thorough in investigating things and trying to find the information for yourself, which is awesome! I strongly suspect you're a benefit to your party, and hey, if we ever end up in the same roulette, I look forward to playing with you.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

On today's story, I yet again have a DNC seemingly throwing a fit(??) about not getting to partner the dps they wanted to.

Eden: Furor for my roulette, I partner NIN soon as we load in, pre-Dance since some people are watching the cutscene. Gate goes down, and the other DNC partners NIN too despite having loaded in with enough time to see I'd already partnered them. I assume it was a misfire at first, but by the time their partner should have been off CD to readjust, they kept it on the NIN. I speak up like "you really should partner the RDM, our buffs won't stack on the NIN" (and eat a lightning rod because I was typing, good job me). They keep it on the NIN for a while longer, then take it off.

Good, now the RDM will have a buff too! .... Or so I thought.

This DNC just doesn't put their partner back on anyone. Not the RDM, not the tanks, literally no one. Considering this is Furor, I assume they're aware of the fact they're hard gimping themselves without a partner buff going... so just. Why? Why would you gimp yourself instead of give buff to the RDM??

I'll never understand what goes through some peoples' minds in DF, honestly.

[Coletergeist]

Yeah no, gear upgrades are important otherwise you'll always be leeching plus you'll never be able to get to floor 200. And you need a crapload of those chests to get your gear high.
personally the only reason I sometimes farm potd at all is for gear upgrades for my completion static, so if people skip chests and only go for xp it's a omplete waste of time for me.

See, like same.
People do PotD for various reasons. I'm doing it for floor 200 and weapon glamorous, on top of selling some accursed treasures because I'm also poor, and it's a different way of also lining my pockets with gil. Obviously there's other manners to getting gil,but if I'm *already* doing PotD...

Cant people just have patience? Or realize this?

[Coletergeist]

You can still get gear upgrades picking up chests on the way. I played my alt that way. It's actually arguably faster. You wanna farm for your gear? Then farm it with others of like mind, rather than randoms who are there for EXP - you are wasting their time.

Either way, seems like someone is wasting someone else's time. *shrug*

I also have no friends.
It's rude for those yo assume that joining a matched party should be solely for just exp runs.

[Coletergeist]

For PotD if you see a silver chest and want upgrades, it's fine to go for it. It doesn't take more than a few seconds to nip into a nearby room on the way, grab the chest and continue.

However, in 51-60 runs it isn't worth it to run off in the opposite direction from the exit or go hunting around in unknown rooms miles away trying to find silver chests. That makes the run take twice as long, for maybe a few extra chests. In the long term, that's not efficient. You'll get upgrades just as fast, if not faster, by going with the group and just grabbing what you see along the way because you get twice as much runs. Not to mention far more exp (or tomes if taking a max level char).

I appreciate this! I'll do this and see how things go.

[Packetdancer]

Either way, seems like someone is wasting someone else's time. *shrug*

I also have no friends.
It's rude for those yo assume that joining a matched party should be solely for just exp runs.

Honestly, just reach out to your FC? I found others in mine who are interested in doing a serious PotD deep dive, but some hadn't even reached floor 50 yet, so we've been doing some group runs of 1-50 to try to help build up everyone's gear before venturing onwards. If no one in your FC is interested, you could probably even throw up a party finder.

[Cincierta]

Level 44 gladiator in Cutter's Cry who doesn't turn on tank stance and took 10 minutes to find the first portal.

I once had a 54 GLA in Keeper of the Lake in SB cap a while ago. I had joined in as AST. The entire party sans the GLA noped out of there pretty quick once we all realized it.

[Lium]

https://imgur.com/a/7lXKHq1
The dragoon is my friend and all so her name being seen doesn't matter.
She gets the normal amount of damage while i just get deleted. And you also see: No vuln up or anything.

It's... just a weird thing that happened i guess!

And to Sannar: You can totally stack them with somebody who doesn't have the cleave. They all just take damage then but it doesn't get more per stack. At least not that i noticed since people stack on that tether a lot because they try to dodge the eruptions. My Cohealer also had the tether stacked with like 4 people before and they all were fine... i was the only one who got deleted.

And the fact that it's almost triple of my hp is just weird

Edit edit: Just confirmed. My cohealer hit one of the tanks for this tether and they got the normal damage WITH double weakness.


their hp after it

Ah, looks like you were a victim of the Chad Factor. So, sorry.

Chad's my real name. Often in dungeons, raids and trials, some mechanic will go off and I do it correctly and still get instakilled. It's usually followed up by someone in the group or raid saying some variant of, "Holy crap! I've never seen that happen before!" The first couple times it happened, I chalked it up to bad luck, a fluke, or lag on my end. But when it started happening over and over again in multiple encounters regardless of level, I had to come up with a name for it. So, the Chad Factor. It means that sometimes, no matter what, the game will just want to kill me for some reason.

Nothing for me to do except rez and move on and hope the game has gotten its fix in and will leave me alone for the rest of the run. If it doesn't, I just drop group and eat the penalty.

[Ammokkx]

I once had a 54 GLA in Keeper of the Lake in SB cap a while ago. I had joined in as AST. The entire party sans the GLA noped out of there pretty quick once we all realized it.

You win. This ain't gon' be topped.